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Google Images Update : Dear Google - We Hate it!
hollow

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 1:20 pm on Jan 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

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Extremely irritating - makes the page hard to scan, as the mouseovers activate while you're just moving your mouse between other elements (scrolling and such). Also from a usability perspective, when an area highlights like that, I generally expect that to represent the target area of a hyperlink.

Seems like this is catering more for the whims of the developers than ease of use of the audience.

 

LunaC

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 1:48 pm on Jan 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Another "Me to" here. Google seemed to throw common sense right out the window here.

I'm glad someone else mentioned the lack of credit (reference, mention.. not sure how to put that clearly) to the originating site until mouseover. (What next.. send the user directly to the images URL, bypassing the page altogether?)

There's already Grease Monkey scripts written to put the results back to the original layout, along with bloggers telling how to adjust it for other browsers that can't / don't want to use Grease Monkey. So at least I'm seeing the old layout, but it really bothers me that my site isn't mentioned clearly (no mouseover needed) in the results. Terrible for usability.

There's been a lot of complaints about this all over the web, and not just web developers, most of the complaints I've seen have been from users of image search. Hopefully Google will listen.

photopassjapan

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 4:15 pm on Jan 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hmm...

I don't like to be negative, but this is... uh.

I mean there isn't a single thing i can think of why this look is for the better. The only praise i heard so far... was that it looked "clean"... well, i don't think it looks clean, i think its just looks plain empty :P

Heh... i don't know about you, but if they updated something within Image Search...

...why isn't it the data?

;)

Our site has the same set indexed since we launched, about 800 images out of the 2300... and all the ranks are rock solid ever since last august. ( although i'm not so sure if an update would make us rank any better so i'll just shut my mouth for now :P )

kevsh

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 7:22 pm on Jan 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

I agree with the comments so far, very bad all-around from both a searchers pov and for site owners.

Just curious, has anyone who gets Google Image traffic noticed more or less click-throughs since the changes?

JKMitchell

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 1:56 pm on Jan 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Don't like this at all, it seems a backwards step to me, why not display the url like it used to?

zeus

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 11:09 am on Jan 30, 2007 (gmt 0)

Is a little update on the way on the google image section, I did get a little more visits yesterday, but I can not see any changes on Google Image.

thomis

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 3:03 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Me too.

That is all.

flack47

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 4:16 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

I will admit that the Google image search change is kind of a stupid one.
HOWEVER
I'm not so sure that it's worthy of a three-page thread.
I can't honestly say that I don't know a single person that does an image search, for the URLs. I'm fairly sure that there is a whole other thing for that. . .what's it called? :)
I do see where they should have used that manpower that was wasted on this change to work on more important things like everything else. That's a good call.
But for somebody to have to actually roll over an image to see the domain from which it's coming is not that difficult. What kind of world of lazies are we living in?
I'm not sure that lazies is a word, but I like it!

wolfadeus

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 4:18 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Boo, Google! This is being evil to your very own publishers!

jtara

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 4:25 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

I like the new look!

Nearly everbody here is looking at this from the perspective of a webmaster. To understand why Google does things, though, you have to look at it from the perspective of a user.

From a user's perspective, this is great! If you are doing an image search, you are - big duh - searching for IMAGES. And that is what they show you, completely uncluttered. If you are searching for images, the more images you can see at once to select from, the better. And the less clutter to distract from the images the better.

One can argue that image search is just a tool for people to use to rip-off copyrighted content, and I won't argue with you on that. Perhaps that's all it is.

(Though there are some legitimate uses - you want to see images that were in the news, etc. You need to see what that refrigerator looks like, to see how it will go with your new kitchen, etc.)

Now, if they could select some relevant text that goes with the image, I'd be all for displaying that along-side or above or below the image - perhaps as an alternative view. (One thing I hate about Google is that for the most part, THEY decide what I want - they don't give me, the user, a choice.)

But if Google could find relevant text... OK, don't get me going in that direction...

aleksl



 
Msg#: 3240678 posted 4:26 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

usability, shmuzability. now they basically hid image owner information, i.e. this looks like their own images now. I wonder how long will it be before someone sues them.

JAB Creations

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 5:45 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

I was really happy to see this, it's about dam time!

Beachboy

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 6:05 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Google, count me in, too. I also don't like the new format. As a matter of habit when browsing, I'll frequently click somewhere on the page then dial the scroll wheel to move up or down the page, but with the hidden boundaries of the image activation space, if I do that I'll probably load an image I don't want to see. Not a good idea, dudes. How about giving us back the old way?

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 6:23 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

jtara, only the "you're hiding my URL" posts are due to webmaster concerns. That's only a few.

The vast majority I have see here and elsewhere are complaining that the interface has been dumbed down at the expense of displaying important information necessary for determining which pictures are most relevant to your needs.

It would be a fairly trivial matter for them to put an new-or-classic selection box in the preferences, and I hope they do so. I'm certainly not going to hack my Firefox install as per their posted solution to the problem; instead I'm simply using Yahoo! image search more frequently.

Brett_Tabke

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 6:37 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

> To understand why Google does things, though, you have to
> look at it from the perspective of a user.

Users really? Then lets get real honest about why people use image archives. Two uses:

a) porn archives
b) image theft

There are few - if any? - honest legitimate uses of image archives.

Vali

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 7:51 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

I kind of like it.
The only thing missing is that lightbox effect when you click the image.
And also the link to the site always visible under the image.

DoingItWell

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 7:54 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

a) porn archives, b) image theft

Amen to that! I've been excluding image search bots through robots.txt since the start. It's not really important to me how an image search looks, just that it doesn't display any pictures from my websites.

handsome rob

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 8:13 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Add me to the petition. I often use image search at work to show others pictures of widgets (no keywords, sorry) that we possibly do not carry. Not being able to see the dimensions is a drawback. An even bigger drawback is not being able to see the source. I click an image, image is on a myspace page, work internet filter goes nuts, IT ninjas kill my family. Carnage.

mattglet

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 8:45 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

IT ninjas kill my family. Carnage.

Brilliant, thanks for a much needed laugh at the end of a Friday.

jomaxx

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 8:52 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

As the webmaster of a visual arts related website, I can assure you that I use image search for many legitimate research-related purposes. If you are specifically looking for visual content, it can be a lot faster than using the text search and hoping the illustration can be found.

BTW I was disappointed to do a survey and find that Yahoo! is the only search engine left serving up complete text with its images. All of the other main ones (MSN, Snap, Ask.com, Picsearch) suppress useful information in favor of pretty pictures.

Bewenched

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 8:59 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Google! Put the text back.

Ecaterina

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 9:06 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

ugly for me, but nice for my mom. Better with the old format

mcavic

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 9:24 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

My main objection is the mouseovers. I don't want the content changing and overlapping other content when I move my mouse. There was nothing wrong with the old format showing all of the relevant data.

mattg3

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 9:26 pm on Feb 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

Besides that it somehow looks cr@ppy, it's another stage of Google removing contact with the originator of the actual image. IE their frame page they have since ages. I mean there is supposedly this war on spam on. How is this different from anyone doing a web directory and pulling gazzilion of content in and obstructing the access to someone elses content.

I think besides human anatomy, image search per se is useful for identifying when abc talks about celeb xyz I have never heared of, or species xyz.

Kufu

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 12:38 am on Feb 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

I'd say this is the silliest change I've seen from Google. Why would anyone hide image information? How is this an improvement?

It is like the explanation from the BMW CEO about how they changed the gear shift system so something out of Star Trek to make room for larger cup holders.

Next they are going to remove the descriptions from SERPs. No really!

[edited by: Kufu at 12:38 am (utc) on Feb. 3, 2007]

Clark

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 2:50 am on Feb 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

a) porn archives
b) image theft

There are few - if any - honest legitimate uses of image archives.

You just contradicted yourself. Porn archives is a legitimate use of image archives ;)

Plus it helps explain google's change. The users of google images want porn and to steal images. The "clean" look helps us view the porn without the needless text. And those who are stealing images don't really care who owns the pictures. So even if webmasters don't like it, the real users of the system do.

j/k

gibbergibber

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 1:17 pm on Feb 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

It's a terrible design.

This kind of "mouseover to see what's there" idea has never worked on the internet, it means the visitor has to work really hard just to take in what's on a single page, and they never get an overall impression of all the information there.

Why why why, Google?

djmick200

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 2:15 pm on Feb 3, 2007 (gmt 0)


There are few - if any? - honest legitimate uses of image archives.

I have heard and seen my people I know using image search and believe me they wouldn't have a clue or be interested in stealing anything.

quick example.
a friend was offered a discount on a sony tv last week. he went to google images and punched in the model number to see it.

I believe there are many like him.

nutsandbolts

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 5:53 pm on Feb 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

I hate it too. Bad Google. Bad Google. No.

Frederic1

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Msg#: 3240678 posted 7:09 pm on Feb 3, 2007 (gmt 0)

Google should have kept its old style search results instead of imitating MS' Live Image Search :-( This search look is so bad :(

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