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Dec 15 - Google Results Changes?
Pre-Christmas update in effect?

 3:00 pm on Dec 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm seeing new results in Google for the major 2-word keyword that I target. All other targeted words show normal, but this 2 word has results I've never seen. Anyone else seeing changes?



 4:50 pm on Dec 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seeing some sweeeet result, but will they stay...


 5:00 pm on Dec 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Our traffic from them has dropped, starting sometime yesterday.


 10:36 am on Dec 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

< This post was spliced onto this thread from another location >

We get a lot of Google traffic on a daily basis. The day before yesterday, the Google organic traffic started to dropped. After doing some research and reading several threads on this forum, we figured out that this is a common problem.

We had the same issue about 8 months ago, but the traffic came back the following day. Now our web site is getting 50% of what we used to get.

I was thinking about contacting Google regarding this issue, but I couldn't find the suitable contact form on Google's page (checked both Webmaster's page and the standard Google contact form). Any suggestions?

[edited by: tedster at 6:35 pm (utc) on Dec. 15, 2006]


 8:45 pm on Dec 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Same here. Traffic started dropping yesterday and today it's down by 50%. What's going on?


 9:02 pm on Dec 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seeing different results depending on where I look. Has anyone else noticed a difference between natural "organic" searches and datacenter searches?

I have personalized search turned off; however, for the past several days, when I check the various datacenters, it shows me a different result than I see when I go to just a generic www.google.com. In the past, this has been an omen of things to come (but usually only lasts half a day). This time, I first noticed this phenomenon on 12/11.

Is anyone else seeing different results on datacenter watch (as opposed typing in the keyword phrase naturally)?

Oliver Henniges

 9:06 pm on Dec 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

I just noticed that my webmaster central console says "pending verification" though the account worked fine for more than half a year now. A click on the figure works fine as well, and the account says that #*$! pages are indexed.

However, some of the stats options seem deactivated, among others the crawling statistics. I'm still waiting for a couple of hundred (indexed) pages to get some PR assigned. All in all, I'd second that something's going on.

Oliver Henniges

 5:48 am on Dec 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

And as for this early morning the whole system is quite lame and just says "pending" for the overall status. Does anyone else see similar things in his webmaster central? Is the system undergoing heavy maintanence / restucturing, or is that a serious warning concerning my own account? Should I resubmit?


 11:29 am on Dec 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

yes, a lot of things down in sitemaps atm

i resubmitted a few times in the past day, if it said waiting for verification


 1:19 pm on Dec 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Something has changed. The SERPs for the keyword phrases I monitor now show almost half the listings for sites that are not normally on the first page. This is a stable category where the first page has shown the same sites in varying order for many years.

The new sites are mostly affiliates, replacing the primary sites they represent. Also I see as many as three entries from the same site within the first ten results.

The snippets for most of my pages have reverted to old text - back to the DMOZ home page description I think. My internal pages have usually shown their own snippets describing specific products, now they are all the same.

This is just too different to be "right". Waiting for the other shoe to drop....

[edited by: Skier at 1:58 pm (utc) on Dec. 16, 2006]


 2:28 pm on Dec 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sitemaps gave me quite a scare last night, it reported that no pages from any of my sites were included in the index. I looked and they were there, traffic looked ok, but I was scared it was a peek at what was to come.

Today (*knock on wood*) sitemaps is saying they are included in the index. Home page crawl is also showing a more reasonable date. Last night it was rather far behind what I knew was the last time Gbot had crawled the main pages.

My guess (and hope) is that what we're all seeing is just a hiccup and that they are doing some serious maintenance. Something went a bit wrong, but it looks like they're working on it.


 2:58 pm on Dec 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

We are seeing a very wide scale negative change on several large sites starting on Thursday the 14th at some point.


 4:18 pm on Dec 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

We started to get some traffic from Google Canada, although the main Google site is still missing our links... does anyone has tried contacting Google regarding this issue?


 7:44 pm on Dec 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

This looks more like a glitch than an actual update. Too much weirdness going on with Sitemaps. We're in the same boat as others: verification status reverted to "pending", very old "last crawled" date, number of URLs indexed dropped by 50%. Traffic is off by about 20%, though I haven't seen much change in any of my benchmark SERPs.


 8:27 pm on Dec 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

We don't use sitemaps, but our traffic is definitely down 15%-20% starting the same time as everybody else. Using site: The number of indexed pages appears to be the same, but that number has always been more of an estimate.

Looking at the SERPs our positions seem to be somewhere between where they were prior to the previous update, and where they were after that update. Kind of in the middle. For example, one deep keyword I keep track of as a sort of measuring stick was #140 2 updates ago, then it was #110 after the latest update, and now it's #121 as of like Thursday.


 3:25 am on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

I think google is broke, webmaster console says we have no pages indexed, caches of pages show adsense ads in foreign languages. Links are showing wierd, and wild page rank fluctuations.

Plus, all the preffered domain changes are gone...


 9:33 am on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

just checked


example.com/search.htm first followed by all my KMZ KML files
(Google place mark files) a little bit mixed by the weakest pages on my site.

Around 30


I have some pages with links to place mark files like

example.com/interesting-city/sight.htm links with a Google earth
icon to

So every *.kmz file has only 1 link.

search.htm has even 0 links.
I have on every page a Google AdSense search box.
The search box is configured to show results on example.com/search.htm

So search.htm has not one real link, only the indirect from the search box.

When I ask Google just after my domain name without TLD ending,
nothing to find under the first 100.

Before December 15th, also under heavy penalty, it started around place 38

Great! All my efforts to fix eventual problems result in a far more heavy penalty.


 12:03 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Something has definitely changed. My site looks nothing less but wiped out for keywords it ranked for months. These keywords actually bring up a bunch of link collector websites that include mostly a link to me.

Bad bad bad bad surprise..... i would say that is a master change of the index...



 1:36 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've noticed a negative change on my site. It doesn't look like a penalty, just a change in the algorithm so certain phrases that my site used to be on page one for have slipped down to pages two, three or further.


 2:41 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Everything abnormally normal for the KWs I monitor via googleapi.


 3:00 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

A client just told me his site has disappeard completely as of today.
This has happened to several others over the last 2-3 weeks, thankfully, so far at least, they all eventually returned, but something appears to be going on


 3:08 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

This morning my site dropped from 6 to 126 spot in SERP for main keyword.
I don't change anything since August 2006.
For site:domain.com I see 2 supplementals(there are only 2 on my site),above index of domain.com.Supplementals no loger exist since April 2006.
Now what?


 3:52 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

We all have the same problem.

Why there's no statement from google?
Why there's no answer from M.Cutts?
Why it doesn't matter for google, if a lot of webmasters losing their existence?
How can google waive for so much adsense takings?

The dropping continues permanently since nearly two weeks, without any sign for a possible reason. I can exlude scrapers or hijacking, because my domain ist to stromg for that and no similar text to my pages are shown in the serps.


 4:07 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

some feedback from my side - after further investigation.

This is the hardest hit my website has taken so far since it's relaunch in 2004. You might remember - there have been some pretty nasty (some named) updates since then.

I do hope this is a glitch - otherwise I don't know what to do.

Best luck for you all


ps. My website is whitehat and quality.


 4:18 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Same like me.

That's not an update but a downdate.


 4:26 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

agree fiba.

one update from my side - most of my important pages went supplemental.

if this index will stay - I gonna build my own search engine then.



 4:26 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse it has. Overnight my site has been plunged deeper and deeper into obscurity. It really really doesn't deserve this. At this point it is laughable.


 4:51 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

an update is an update .. good, bad or indifferent. We should be used to this. We will never know the exact workings of the algo.

What gets me, is that sitemaps is definitely broken and has been now for a couple of weeks and with absolutely no word from google. That to me, is not very professional.


 5:25 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

This is not a normal update. I have never seen so many error messages from adsense from example. Something was wrong during the last few days - and today I just look at the cache from a page (not mine) and I do see error messages deluxe. Check it by yourself...

I have never seen that before and the fact that nearly 95% of my entire site (large, high PR, quality, whitehat) went supplemental AND another site that has been (and IS) redirected 2 months ago to a new location (301) just came back ...

Ladies and gentleman - Google is broken again. And this time they really broke it.

I really hope they are aware (100% sure they are) and I hope they can fix that fast.

Depressed regards



 6:24 pm on Dec 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looking at the SERPs our positions seem to be somewhere between where they were prior to the previous update, and where they were after that update. Kind of in the middle. For example, one deep keyword I keep track of as a sort of measuring stick was #140 2 updates ago, then it was #110 after the latest update, and now it's #121 as of like Thursday.

This morning it's now #113. It's more like a constant shuffling than an update.

[edited by: ALbino at 6:31 pm (utc) on Dec. 17, 2006]

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