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Things I'm seeing that changed, ...
In google sitemaps, it's saying many pages have low pagerank, or many pages have not been assigned pagerank yet, but the visible PR is very high across the site.
It has many high quality links, pr5 across the whole site.
The allinanchor searches used to show the site ranking high, now it is nowwhere for those searches.
it seems the theory of twiglet is correct.
We've checked weeks ago a drop down of our sites in the serps by 100-250 positions. We think the indicator could be a "unnatural" growth in incoming links. Especially such with a higher page rank.
Unfortunately we can't say anything about the period of this "penalty".
1 domain was back in higher ranking after a period of approx. 4-6 weeks.
-- Sorry for double posting
[edited by: DConductor at 5:16 pm (utc) on Dec. 13, 2006]
I submit to about 15 of the larger article directories and I just found out that one of them was holding all my articles and then suddenly decided to publish them on their site all at once. That can't look good to Google.
Do you guys think explaining this to Google on a reinclusion form would help?
What do they expect us to do? Put a box on our site asking people not to link to us from template sidebars? And there was I in a world of my own, just adding information to our site. Those guys have a real problem, and it isn't my site.
[edited by: Pamela2 at 6:16 pm (utc) on Dec. 13, 2006]
Does anybody find it ironic that Google says the most important thing for good ranking is to have other sites link to yours, and then when you get more incoming links, you get penalized for it?
Any Google feedback to dispell this theory would be appreciated.
Ohterwise; on the same way it would be possible to influence competitors pages too. That's would be a none progressive way and not desired by Goggle...
Google.co.uk is showing a massive movement in my sector, I thought this was a glitch as my home page still had a cache date of the 4th, but last night it updated to the 10th.
The keywords I follow have certainly been shaken up. I am seeing some very small sites which have relevance but have never been near the top ten before.
to heavy on keyword density and keyword clustering (like red widgets) seem to be tripping filters, I was going to wait to see if it reverts but tonight I figured there's not much less to loose, so I've done some optimisation to fall inline with the current top ten's keyword density etc...
I don't think inbound links are causing much of an issue in my sector as the current top ten don't seem to have many inbound links at all
I'll keep you updated, if the changes work
Ps. my site is not a directory, it's a gift site which has been indexed highly in google for the past 4 years.
So we unless know, that we'll have all the same problem, but completely different structures and conditions. One reason more to believe it is an error and there is no system behind it (depressant or not?). If not, it must be a very ugly system or bad faith behind it.
;o) Regards Fibalogger
I manage over 30 websites from 7 years to a few months in age and from PR 6 to 0 for the newer ones, with very little link growth going on and never use a link submission service, and none of them have been affected by this Dec 7 drop in rank (or any of the other ups and downs of recent months). About 2 of them add a new page per month otherwise very few changes on the rest.
When I take over a site I move it to a host that doesn't have Open DNS servers, install base href tags, full urls and 301 redirects to the www version of the domains. All of these are designed to protect them from scrapers and help enable Google to determine the owner of the content.
Scrapers can cause your site to go supplemental.
Matt said Google hasn't done anything to cause this so scrapers and Open DNS would be the next thing I would check on or maybe there is new method of hijacking..
PS. I have one client that published an article on Google and Yanoo news and it said it would be around the internet. While the links have exploded the site is still ranking at the top for practically all it's major keywords. So far, anyway.
However a competitor could do this to a site also.
joined:Dec 1, 2003
After dropping, my first guess was hijacking, so we looked into the logfiles, but we found no such referers.
I think referers can apply to one type of hijack. But does not apply to say a proxy hijack. I am looking at this but if you see a blank referer in your logs you can assume it is suspect as well, just finding a method to track them.
Actually, we are finding that there is no better way to improve your ranking than one-way links from good websites.
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[edited by: tedster at 3:37 am (utc) on Dec. 14, 2006]