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Am I clear of the 'Sandbox'?
Finally I can see more than just one page in G's SERPs
OutdoorMan




msg:3130933
 7:24 pm on Oct 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi.

Finally, when I do the 'site:example.com' command in G, I get 6 pages from my website instead of just 1 -- my root page. Great!

I have waited since the beginning of august for this day to come. But, how can I tell that I'm really clear of the 'Sandbox'?

Any suggestions on what to do now to get more pages to show up in G's SERPs?

 

BeeDeeDubbleU




msg:3131447
 8:21 am on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

But, how can I tell that I'm really clear of the 'Sandbox'?

When your site starts to attract traffic for your keywords. ;)

Google will eventually index all of your site but it will probably do it quicker if you get a few inbound links from other sites with PR. Alternatively you could try a Google sitemap.

kolin




msg:3131484
 9:15 am on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

My Site only has one result when i do a Site on it.

does this mean i'm in the 'sandbox' still?

site was first submitted back in june, and has had a 302 problem with it (see my topic from yesterday "302 redirects and google" or something)

UK_Web_Guy




msg:3131565
 11:41 am on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

A site should be indexed within days, if it isn't you need to get more inbound links.

Indexing and the "sandbox" are 2 different things.

OutdoorMan




msg:3131635
 1:24 pm on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

When your site starts to attract traffic for your keywords.

I'll guess I'm out of the 'Sandbox' (or out of the trust filter or whatever it is called) then. I have had my first keyword traffic from Google :)

I also have a GWT account, but I have read that the use of a sitemap.xml is a bad idea fore a new website -- Maybe it's true, because ever since I dropped the sitemap.xml, good things have happened to my website in Google.

Yup, I am trying to get some inbounds, but it's difficult to get inbound links from related websites, because my niche/category is still rather small (where I come from). But I hope it'll come in time, by itself, when people learn to know my website.

kolin




msg:3131705
 2:18 pm on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

i can't believe that removing the sitemap from google webmaster tools will help keyword searches to appear on google.... :/

OutdoorMan




msg:3131710
 2:28 pm on Oct 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

i can't believe that removing the sitemap from google webmaster tools will help keyword searches to appear on google.... :/

I don't know for sure if the removal of my G sitemap.xml has helped me in the SERPs -- But something has happened. That's for sure.

It could also be that it just was about time for Google to release my website from the 'Sandbox'/trust filtering. Maybe?

But as mentioned, I have read before that other people have experienced changes after removing their XML-sitemap from GWT.

OutdoorMan




msg:3132405
 12:28 am on Oct 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hmm... That's strange.

Does anyone have an idea of why my root page still haven't been reindexed since august 31th, when all the other pages shown, when I do the site:example.com command in G, all has been indexed in october?

OutdoorMan




msg:3137679
 12:59 am on Oct 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone have an idea of why my root page still haven't been reindexed since august 31th, when all the other pages shown, when I do the site:example.com command in G, all has been indexed in october?

Does anyone have an answer on this?

Jane_Doe




msg:3137686
 1:25 am on Oct 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone have an answer on this?

It helps to have lots of good quality links pointing to your site.

OutdoorMan




msg:3137692
 1:37 am on Oct 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

It helps to have lots of good quality links pointing to your site.

Yes and I have a few inbounds (and try to get more). But do you think that's the reason why my root page haven't been updated in the SERPs since august -- Because I only have a few inbounds on that page or could there be other reasons?

OutdoorMan




msg:3137981
 1:17 pm on Oct 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

Okay, I guess nobody have an answer on this.

Thanks for your posts everybody.

grant




msg:3138572
 3:29 am on Oct 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does anyone have an idea of why my root page still haven't been reindexed since august 31th, when all the other pages shown, when I do the site:example.com command in G, all has been indexed in october?

Are the pages returned when you do site:domain identified as supplemental?

OutdoorMan




msg:3138631
 5:30 am on Oct 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Are the pages returned when you do site:domain identified as supplemental?

No, I haven't got any supplementals at all.

Google shows 13 pages when I do the site:domain -- including my root page. None of them are identified as supplementals.

tedster




msg:3139006
 6:19 pm on Oct 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

It's very possible that this is the result of googlebot crawling ptterns, and not something you can "fix" directly. It may be a result of low PR and the infrequent spidering that can result. If you have a Supplemental Result tag on a url, that can mean spidering on a much less frequent basis. But apparently you don't, so that's not the answer.

What do your logs say -- has googlebot requested your Home Page since Aug 31?

Some factors I can think of that might be under your control rather than Google's:

1. Does the domain root resolve directly as your page, or does it redirect to an inner URL?

2. Do all your Home links in the site point to the domain root, rather than to "index.php" or whatever the filename is?

3. Have you updated the Home Page in any way? This "shouldn't" matter -- but when the content is not modified since the last crawl, there's a new method for handling cache dates being worked out. That might still be buggy.

OutdoorMan




msg:3139018
 6:38 pm on Oct 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your post, Tedster.

What do your logs say -- has googlebot requested your Home Page since Aug 31?

My stats (AW stats) shows frequently Googlebot activities on my site, but I can't actually see if there are any direct hits on my Home Page.

1. Does the domain root resolve directly as your page, or does it redirect to an inner URL?

My Home Page is adressed as www.example.com -- and I don't adress it as either /default.asp or /index.asp

I recently have had such an issue [webmasterworld.com] a few weeks ago, due to a bad 301 redirect script, wich had the result that Google added my /default.asp to their index.

I solved (I believe) the problem by renaming my /default.asp as /index.asp and added the following in my robots.txt:

User-agent: *
Disallow: /Index.asp$
Disallow: /Default.asp$

Wich should prevent robots from indexing my Home Page as /default.asp or /index.asp.

2. Do all your Home links in the site point to the domain root, rather than to "index.php" or whatever the filename is?

Yes, all of my internal links points at www.example.com when adressing my Home Page.

3. Have you updated the Home Page in any way? This "shouldn't" matter -- but when the content is not modified since the last crawl, there's a new method for handling cache dates being worked out. That might still be buggy.

I have changed some of the tekst on my Home Page for about two weeks ago.

Thank you for your time!

[edited by: OutdoorMan at 6:57 pm (utc) on Oct. 29, 2006]

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