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Datacenter Watch: 2006-10-02
andrewshim




msg:3105054
 10:21 am on Oct 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

< continued from: [webmasterworld.com...] >

does anyone know if 216.239.51.104 is being used as a test server?

I seem to see my site at #9 across ALL datacenters excepts for this one which has me fluctuating between #1 and #4.

[edited by: tedster at 11:16 pm (utc) on Oct. 3, 2006]

 

theBear




msg:3146170
 10:59 pm on Nov 4, 2006 (gmt 0)

jwc would like at least one of those ip addys.

g1smd




msg:3146236
 12:05 am on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Note: All IPs like 64.233.171.* are all the same single datacentre.

I don't see any changes across the 30, or so, test searches that I made there.

mirrornl




msg:3146261
 12:45 am on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

srry, im quite a newbee, but seeing changes in the SERPS right now

reseller




msg:3146457
 9:54 am on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

In general, I see most of the DCs moving in the direction of being "affiliate programs friendly", which I consider a great move!

However, its too early to thank the folk at Googleplex for their reconsiderations and recognitions that affiliate program marketing, as part of the online business, deserves its place on Google serps ;-)

annej




msg:3146628
 5:05 pm on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

When I check the data centers mentioned above my best single word search puts my homepage up to #3 which is up one from before but when I search locally it comes up #5 today though a couple of days ago it was #3.

Any theories on which results will prevail?

reseller




msg:3146630
 5:09 pm on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

annej

I see the results of the DCs I mentioned propogating to other DCs ;-)

WW_Watcher




msg:3146673
 6:19 pm on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Reseller, could you please explain why, or what you see that leads you to make a presumption that Google has changed the way it handles the spidering & ranking of Affiliate sites?

You Said:
"In general, I see most of the DCs moving in the direction of being "affiliate programs friendly", which I consider a great move!
However, its too early to thank the folk at Googleplex for their reconsiderations and recognitions that affiliate program marketing, as part of the online business, deserves its place on Google serps ;-)"

I see nothing on those datacenters that would lead to your claim. I see,,,, Everflux.

I make changes to my site daily, and expect and see changes, as do many thousands of webmasters. Google picks up these changes and makes changes to the serps.

If you were monitoring the G serps for state name, big city, small cities, local area widget parts, anywhere around my physical location, you would think that there has been a major upheaval in the Serps, but in reality, it is everflux, I decided I wanted all of these keyword combinations to increase my local customer base. I made the changes on the site a few weeks ago, and a couple of days ago, I stepped in front of just about everyone in the serps, where I had no exposure before.

Are we commenting on everflux now?

So, IMHO, I only see everflux
Reseller, what exactly do you see, and what makes you think that Google has changed its positions on affiliates?
Details, not baseless posting.

Back To Watching
WW_Watcher

BillyS




msg:3146679
 6:35 pm on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>Try your testing keywords/ key phrases and tell us what you see.

No change at all. And these kinds of false alarms are one of the reasons I rarely comment on these threads anymore.

[edited by: BillyS at 6:36 pm (utc) on Nov. 5, 2006]

steveb




msg:3146809
 9:53 pm on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

There seems to be two major sets of data that alternate. There is a superior batch that values genuine sites and has less errors in it. That was dominant on my google.com Thursday and Friday. Yesterday and today a much weaker batch values trivial stuff, including that megaspam redirect network.

the dataceneters continue to be very different than both and nothing to really pay attention to.

reseller




msg:3146820
 10:24 pm on Nov 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

I guess within the coming few days, the serps I'm talking about will be more clear to most of you if the movements I see continue in "the right direction" as its now ;-)

Back to watching the grass grow :-)

BillyS




msg:3146907
 1:37 am on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

>> guess within the coming few days, the serps I'm talking about will be more clear to most of you if the movements I see continue in "the right direction" as its now ;-)

Based on Matt's comments, most of us realize there will be movement in the next week or so. I'm assuming it will be in the "right direction" too.

But I'm guessing your prediction is more affiliate movement up. We'll see if you're right reseller.

annej




msg:3146931
 2:45 am on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

What do you mean by affiliate sites? Ones that are thin with just a bunch of affiliate ads or content sites that also include affiliate sales?

andrewshim




msg:3146972
 3:29 am on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

In the niche that I watch, I noticed a drastic cleaning up of the results. 3 months ago, my category returned 140 million pages, a week ago it was 70 million, the last 3 days it's come down to 24 million...

don't know if it's just a temporary thing.

ronin100




msg:3147041
 5:57 am on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I like the datcenters that reseller posted - they look like where I should be - crosses fingers!

Atomic




msg:3147060
 6:38 am on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

One of my sites has had about 100 supplementals removed and have cache dates ranging from late October to Nov 1. It's been in supplemental hell for many, many months so I take this as a step forward. A lot of pages are still supplemental but some of the best and undeniably unique articles are free.

skweb




msg:3147451
 3:49 pm on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

My experience is same as Atomic. A website of mine entered supplemental hell in March and since then it went through very dramatic moments in which pages were indexed/denindexed and traffic fluctuated. During this period, I did link pages well but for a while even some of the most linked pages did not change. This weekend, something happened and now 90% of pages (over 700 pages) are out of supplemental hell. I am not going to celebrate yet - Goolge is just so unpredictable now.

annej




msg:3147480
 4:16 pm on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

My test word has put me back at #5 across almost all the data centers. I guess the algo that put me at #3 across most of the data centers a few days ago has been changed.

Reseller, These data centers changed over last night from #3 to #5 on my keyword as well as on many other data centers.

[64.233.171.99...]
[64.233.171.104...]
[64.233.171.107...]

Is anyone else seeing changes like this or is it just this one keyword?

andrewshim




msg:3147513
 4:34 pm on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Went from #7 to #5 on those dc's.

oaktown




msg:3147526
 4:37 pm on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

annej,

I don't think it's just one keyword. As others have noted, in my small niche (no money to be made there, sadly), on many DCs, the total pool of results has been reduced by 50-70%. My little site, launched in late May, has moved today from mid-30s to mid-20s. But on the 64.233.171.* series, I'm #10 on page 1! To some of the heavy-hitters here who are far more knowledgable than I, this wouldn't be a big deal. Many of the players who post in this forum are the Hank Aarons of their trade and only worry about moving from #2 to # 5. I envy their skill and thank them all for their willingness to share some portion of their vast knowledge. Thank you all!

For me, this is a red-letter day and I hope the reults spread to ALL the DCs, but just to have been on page one, even for a day, is pretty nice. Thanks, G! And good luck to all of you in your efforts.

classa




msg:3147544
 4:48 pm on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seeing one of my main keyword phrases (2 words) at the #4 position with 825,000,000 results each on the three datacenters posted above.

The same search on 72.14.209.104 has us at #7 with 58,400,000 results. Very odd.

reseller




msg:3147555
 4:55 pm on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

annej

Reseller, These data centers changed over last night from #3 to #5 on my keyword as well as on many other data centers.

Yes. Some changes happened over last night.

It doesn't look like one of those "Matt Cutts" Data Refresh or Data Push though. Neither an Adam Lasnik's infamous Bad Data Push.

Don't dare to mention ongoing changes in algos. But who knows ;-)

wanderingmind




msg:3147649
 6:00 pm on Nov 6, 2006 (gmt 0)

Aren't changes like 3 to 5 and 7 to 5 etc only to be expected from everflux?

Ledfish




msg:3148665
 2:13 pm on Nov 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

<This message was spliced on to this thread from another location

Just did a random check on my main keyword this morning and got some really really terrible results. The normal top four for the word where nowhere to be found.

Did a ping check and it returned the IP Address as 72.14.203.99

What is Google thinking!

[edited by: tedster at 6:24 pm (utc) on Nov. 7, 2006]

300m




msg:3149081
 6:32 pm on Nov 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Something happened sometime between yesterday and today. I have keywords all over the place. For me, just glancing at the lisyt of keywords, long tail targeting has been adversely affected.

vanevan




msg:3149753
 5:30 am on Nov 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

We've went from 9-12 months at #1 for our "money term" to #271 last night and now back to #1. I hope this roller coaster has made it to the end we've been all over the place in the last 24 hours.

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[edited by: tedster at 9:16 am (utc) on Nov. 10, 2006]

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