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Data Refresh - 2006 Sept 30

 9:48 am on Sep 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Has anyone else noticed a data refresh today (Sept 30th?) my site seems to be gradually disappearing from data centres for many keywords. Is this another bad data push or is it just my site that has been affected?



 11:00 am on Oct 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

thats funny....i thought id see just how far trustrank can take you and try log instead of blog...it was almost a shock to not see wiki at top..till i noticed it was number 4 under the ..did you mean section...

incidentally i was actually expcting to see something about logs of wood..but i didnt..a map is number two..this is on .co.uk..


 12:20 pm on Oct 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Sigh ...

Oct. 3rd was a back to normal traffic for us .. not great, but normal .. we all smiled in relief.

Then oct 4th, business was down right bad. Just some of our test base searches are showing all kinds of product ads from amazon,nextag,shopping.msn.com,

It was so slow it made me go visit some news sites to see if something drastic had happened in the world that no one told us about ... but alas the sky was not falling.

On the bright side .. traffic from msn, ask and yahoo are growing steadily.


 1:32 pm on Oct 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Amazingly, they're the same. What, keyword density doesn't matter anymore? Can it be?

Considering MC told people to back off the SEO, this is exactly what I did. I cut down the keyword density by a very large amount and a site was removed from the box after being in there since June 27th. I made sure there were no repitions of the title, meta tags, keywords, etc...It seems the the idea of "conceptual density" as tedster has mentioned is slowly taking effect IMO. The only sites that I see ranking high and for lengthy periods of time that can break some of these rules are authority sites that have been around for a long time.


 1:34 pm on Oct 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

Also want to mention that the site came back on the 15th refresh and wasn't effected by the 30th refresh at all.


 2:17 pm on Oct 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

This is getting very worse. If I thought on Sep. 30 it couldnīt get more way down. Ups there it is. It went down dramatically. I canīt tell why but two sites are affected. One is allmost far away from this worlds www and the other is doing about 3-10 hits/h. No dup content all different titles. Allthough they are listed ingoogle index, they are way down the serps.

What happend?
Has google read in ww about the all unique content, no Dup Content and all different title tags to do better in google and now they are going to punish all who followed the advice?

Goolge, why must allmost everything u guys do, end up in a disaster?


 2:33 pm on Oct 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

LuckyGuy, are you saying you saw some significant changes today, that pushed you even further back? If so then I can confirm I see the same thing with one of my sites. It was hit on June 27, came back on Sept 16, back down on Sept 30, and even further down today... down to levels I haven't seen since the first week the site was visible....


 2:39 pm on Oct 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

The broken site searches seem to be fixed as of today, after being very badly broken for at least the last week.


 2:54 pm on Oct 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seeing flux this morning as well. Some of our keywords are actually coming back (we were hit bad Oct 1 weekend), though on a small scale. For example, former authority double indented listing from Page 1 - #1, was pushed to bottom of 3rd page on Oct 1, is now on top of third page, though still a single listng. And so on. Some others remain the same as they have been all week in poor positions... Anyway, there is a change of some sort afoot this morning. Hopefully not over. As with last weekend, the movement happened over the course of a day, so, I hope this means by the end of today, we are back.


 5:48 pm on Oct 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

My site is affected worse today aswell. I think it's because it has disappeared from the remaining few data centres where it continued to rank (although I could never work out what data centres they were).

My feeling is that big changes are about to happen, and we need to wait this out.


 6:11 pm on Oct 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

>> I could never work out what data centres they were <<

The Mozilla, Firefox, or Seamonkey web browsers with the ShowIP extension from L4X.org will do the trick.


 11:04 am on Oct 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

OK, now iīve got some cognitions.
-My pages are up to second level link depth in the main index. Third level pages are in Supp Hell - that wasnīt before the update.
-all my real unique pages with real own unique content are NOT in the index. They were ranking great before.
-allmost all of my positions are now take by an known auctioneer - witch is silly
-many subdomains with allmost dup content ranking very well
-but what is now is that some of my competitor with multiple domains with Duplicate Content are blowen away - good so.

Last point is IMO the fact what google ist looking for and like every time they do something like that, trusty white had pages are affected, too. Hope they will find another way to to so.

Wish u a nice sunday.

kind of still


 11:24 am on Oct 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Minor changes only for me. Two key search phrases which gave positions 2 and 5 now give 10 and 2, other key searches that I check from time to time are steady.


 10:16 pm on Oct 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

Can someone shed some light into this as I am a bit confused; when did the alleged PR update actually took place - was it 30th of Sep or some other day? I have been hearing over times that PR updates are not instantaneous for all, but applied geographically depending upon where the host server of the site is located? Mine for instance I think is in Washington DC - are there any known patterns as to which region(s)/continents is first to witness an update, or is it just 'random'?



 10:20 pm on Oct 8, 2006 (gmt 0)

when did the alleged PR update actually took place - was it 30th of Sep or some other day?

The first reports of a PR and backlinks update were on 28th. There are definitely geographical differences. 80% of DCs are showing the new PR values when using most tools, yet I'm still seeing the older value on the toolbar here in the UK (from

[edited by: JackR at 10:23 pm (utc) on Oct. 8, 2006]

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