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Increasing Page Rank

 12:03 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Been on page rank 3 for about 2 years.

If you had to name just *one* thing that you did, that got yours from pr 3 to pr 4 what was it please?

Any help appreciated.


[edited by: Dexie at 12:04 pm (utc) on Sep. 21, 2006]



 4:56 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Getting at least several links from PR3 pages. But all this year there were no toolbar PR update, except for newly indexed pages, so even if you did it, you wouldn't be likely to see the result in toolbar.


 7:00 am on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Many thanks Wizard - it's appreciated. I know I have about 3-4 pr3 links to the site, how do I find out how many there are out there?

I didn't realise there hadn't been any pr updates for any sites this year - anyone know when the next ones happen?



 10:25 am on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I didn't even get TPR updates for my new sites.


 7:27 pm on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)


on yahoo search


 11:14 pm on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

One thing?

Take care of internal linking so that PR is better spread, not wasted.

- Redirect all non-www requests to www preserving full path.
- Link to www.domain.com/ from every page for the site.
- Ensure all internal links point to www pages.
- Add breadcrumb navigation to help visitors, and spread PR.


 7:50 am on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Many thanks g1smd and the_nerd - very helpful.

If you had navigation menus on each page, would you still need breadcrumbs please?



 11:09 am on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Apart from internal linking:

Participate in forums. Use tools to find (usually up to) PR 5 / PR 4 pages and drop in a comment with a signature link. make sure your comment is relevant and not spammy -- make sure the forum doesnt have robots.txt or nofollow attributes.

Sometimes good for actual traffic as well!


 11:31 am on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Many thanks for that sandpetra - I never thought of those before.

I'll go searching for the tools mentioned, unless someone can point me in the right direction.

Following your comment, I looked at the code for this page - Robots NoIndex - would that be ok?



 2:05 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)


Bottom line is you need far more backlinks to your site from other sites than you currently have.

Most effective for your site is to get good PR back links from sites of a similar theme to you or related. Overall the more sites that link to you the better and over time this will push up your PR.

With quality unique content on your site other sites will want to link to you. One of our sites gains natural new links to it on a regular basis from other sites without doing anything other that having good content on it that sites want to link to.

Next, try putting out some press/ news articles about your site, these get syndicated onto other sites again backlinks or general quality articles that will have the same effect.

Look for sites or directory sites that review sites and submit to them, again these can produce backlinks. The odd magazine you send details to about your site may have a website that it will list you on.

Then you have directorys you can submit to, forums you can join and include your signiture links etc etc

In all, there are zillions of ways to promote your site to gain good back links over time but non of it will come without some effort. IMO You will be able to get your site to a PR5 in time with moderate effort, to get to a 6, 7 or 8 takes a lot more time, effort and dedication.



 2:15 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Many thanks Richard - very useful info.

Much appreciated.



 2:39 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)


Of course Webmasterworld doesnt permit links, anyhow!

Find directories, on topic, if possible, and if you type "pagerank search" into Google you can use a tool, combined with the site: command to dig for relavent ontopic pages in forums with high pR - an easy way to accumulate those pr pages linking to you.

Watch for nofollow in the page code, and in the robots.txt.

This is actualy a good way to get pr and traffic, so worth doing.

When writing articles - be careful. Sometimes you post an article and someone else's website gets the credit and the lions share of converting traffic through youre hard work. Just my experience though.

Recently i have found it better to write my article on my site and post links to it in various forums and news sites (on topic) and using the blogosphere of course for easy instant syndication.


 2:59 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

To the people who suggest spamming forums... it's people like you that have made me set up my forum so that sigs are invisible to search engines, and to strictly enforce the following link policy...

1 - If your only reason for joining this website is to promote yourself, your website or any website you are affiliated with, please do not bother joining. This forum is here to facilitate a community spirit where people can learn and share knowledge, not as a promotion tool for strangers.

2 - Adding a link to your signature field is strictly forbidden. Doing so for search engine purposes is pointless as signature fields are invisible to search engines and guests.

3 - Do not post links to any website you own or operate. This will be interpreted as self promotion and result in your account being disabled.

4 - Do not post links that contain affiliate ID's. For example, if you have an Amazon affiliate ID, and then post a link in our forum that contains an affiliate ID in an attempt to monetize your posts, you will be banned immediately. This website is not here as a vehicle for you to make money.

5 - Do not post links to blacklisted or illegal websites, or any illegal content or objectionable material.

6 - The ONLY reason you should ever post a link to an external website is if it contains useful, pertinent and legal content that would compliment the discussion and does not break any of the above rules.

So there <angry />


 3:12 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

Not one of the helpful people here have suggested spamming forums.



 5:09 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

I certainly dont take part in any forums I am not interested in - or is totally off topic.

I think signature links are a good thing - with a quick look at a sig field you can usually judge if someone is a spammer or serious about quality web design etc.

As ususal it is the people who mass spam that are the problem.

No one is condoning spamming forums and i resent the impliation as i was one of the aforementioned people who was suggesting participating in forums!

You get links. You meet friends. You get traffic. It's a bit of give and take each way - but a perfectly viable and ethical means of marketing.

Right Reading

 5:36 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

The single best thing you can do to rank higher in search results is to upgrade your site content so that you are providing the most useful, relevant responses to the searches.

[edited by: Right_Reading at 5:38 pm (utc) on Sep. 23, 2006]


 6:03 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you need to use forums to get incoming links, you're doing something wrong. It's a lame way of getting links.


 7:45 pm on Sep 23, 2006 (gmt 0)

>> Participate in forums. Use tools to find (usually up to) PR 5 / PR 4 pages and drop in a comment with a signature link. <<

The key word here is "participate". If it is a forum that you are actively participating in, then a link might be permitted, and might even be vaguely useful to you.

If you join forums just to post links, expect to be banned, your posts deleted, and your reputation among those communities to be worth less than zero.

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