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OK, It's The End of Summer
Where's the big shake up...

 10:20 am on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

The solstice is here and I'm now officially holding my breath [cue deep inhalation]...



 12:16 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I am seeing a pretty strong recovery this morning for one of my sites... It has been all over the board over the last few months, so I'm not that excited. Maybe "it's" starting though?

Oliver Henniges

 5:20 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Well, end of summer is 23rd, I had to learn this myself in a parallel thread;) That'd be Saturday, quite likely any major changes will take place over the weekend. We'll see. Nothing revolutionary here, yet.


 5:26 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

lol the changes already occured. (across all DC's as of early today)

This is the way the "new" updates happen.

What did you think the whole "Big Daddy" thing was supposed to solve?

Now, it's "gradual" data refreshes that may or may not affect your sites.

See [webmasterworld.com...] for webmasters affected by the "update"


 5:36 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Be careful what you wish for.
Google giveth and they can taketh away faster than you can type a new data center IP.


 7:15 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm holding out for more changes than we've seen thus far. This can't be what we were told to wait for. If this is it would rank as perhaps the lamest update ever.

Oliver Henniges

 8:44 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

whitenight, I did follow that thread, but nothing really new. Those minor everyday fluctuations never affected my site in the past very much, even if many reported their sites tanked.

I think what most people are waiting for is simply a toolbar-pagerank-update. We all know that such a pr-update would hardly change anything in the SERPs, but it is a sort of prestige-question for many webmasters and would indicate that implementation of the new infrastucture has settled and come to an end as promised in summer by googleguy, vanessa and adam.

The second major bulk of questions has to do with subdomains and subdomain-spamming and includes that www vs non-www issue, but I don't actually expect any quick solution here.


 9:33 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

I'm pretty sure GG only indicated a "infrastructure" update which falls in line with the changes (albeit small) that started on 72.14.207 and rolled out from there over the past 2 weeks.

If I remember correctly he indicated a PR update was not a priority, so I think many here got a little excited expecting a huge massive "algo" update of old.

I don't expect to see those types of "massive" updates anymore.

As far as a PR update?

I'm sure the SEO forums will be a buzzin when it comes.


 9:38 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Would be nice if they finally restored the sites suffering from Aug 17 disaster, they are on some datacentres but it's not spreading,
who cares about pagerank update...


 9:49 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Patience Grasshopper.

The journey of a thousands sites starts with just one index.


 9:53 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Patience, and plenty of it.

If not this update, perhaps the next.

Continue with your meditation.

[edited by: lmo4103 at 10:08 pm (utc) on Sep. 21, 2006]


 9:56 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Nope.. ZERO changes have occurred so far.


 9:58 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

There are some signficant changes on [] it just started
Holding breath now..


 10:00 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good evening Folks

Here is something for you from the man himself [mattcutts.com] :-)

...., there may still be some movement going on till Sept. 30th or so, but I wouldn’t expect it to be a ton of movement.

Good night and God bless.


 10:17 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

So more of a sigh than a roar, eh? That applause you hear is one hand clapping.

[edited by: Atomic at 10:18 pm (utc) on Sep. 21, 2006]


 11:30 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Something is definitely hopping on 72.14.207.x's!


 11:44 pm on Sep 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Nope.. no sig. change on either one on my end.


 12:16 am on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

The Supplemental Update that happened a month ago on gfe-eh, disappeared yesterday (I assume that that DC was simply offline at the time, and accesses routed elsewhere for a while) and is now back with the Supplemental Update visible again tonight. I also assume something happened to that DC while it was offline; something was changed - I have no idea what.


 12:24 am on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Interesting g1smd, gfe-eh is being served up by for me but yet I go directly to that IP and it's a little different when accessed directly by IP. Round robin cluster showing it's face here. Beginning to wonder if what Tedster was talking about using anchor text keywords in navigation is causing a stir here(obviously too quick to assess that though).

[edited by: MLHmptn at 12:27 am (utc) on Sep. 22, 2006]


 12:28 am on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hmmm, OK. is working out tremendously well for me at the present time. Many sites I administer have advanced significantly in rank. Tune in tomorrow to see if they maintain their spots.


 4:13 am on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I posted this on the members side and thought I would share it publicallly:

The internet is ever changing and ever expanding

New technology brings website owners and developers the opportunity to give our customers and viewers better information and easier/better/safer platforms and technologies in which to display it with. As web developers we are constantly having to make changes for browser version, search engine versions and consumer demands.
When sites never change then the content must be stale in my opinion.

Not every website is out to spam the world. I think the search engines have brought the spam upon themselves when they allowed websites to place ads on them instead of keeping the ads within the engine itself.

So in an attempt to control the monsters they created some innocent sites are getting hurt. These sites are having to resort to ppc marketing which is further perpetuating the problem and encouraging content theft by some sites that display ads which causes further harm to possibly already damaged sites.

Honest mistakes can be made with duplicate content pages especially when it comes to dynamic sites, and with a very simple automated email or flag, site owners could be contacted or a notification posted in SE and webmaster communication areas like sitemaps, site explorer and others. Then webmasters could make the necessary changes in order for crawling of their site to resume.

The end of summer is upon us and for most.. it has been long, hot and dry.


 3:38 pm on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

hahahahahahahaha wow well the end of summer is finally here. Did google fix the mess they made with my site starting April and getting worse every month after that?


Today 99% of my results have gone supplemental.



 3:53 pm on Sep 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I agree that small changes kept occuring over the last three months. I have had some mysterious changes on the one site I push. It is entirely supplemental except for the index page. It's only 32 pages and represents a brick and mortar business for a customer. A couple of pages have articles that have been reprinted across the web but were on this site first. I will not remove them.
However, none of this seems to hurt this site. Over the last three months, it has moved from being in obscurity to the top ten in google. I have followed all the suggestions and guidelines I could glean from the posts here.
However, it has also fallen into obscurity in msn. A trade off that I hope will improve traffic. So far, up about 20%.
So, I THINK that will be it. But with google, who knows.

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