| 11:42 am on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I haven't used domains with dashes so I can't tell my experiences there.
My experience with www vs non www is that both can rank just fine, but it does seem though that the non www's are at a disadvantage since many linkers will add the w's on links leading to non www domains, I'm guessing just out of habit.
2 of my domains are well aged (9 and 4 years), both have many natural one way links from quality sources. Neither had 301's from www -> non originally but were added a year or so ago. Even after the redirects were added, many people will still link with the www's. I'm not at all convinced that the redirects are carrying the full weight of those IBL. Neither of those are ranking well at all the last 2 years (falling in and out of supplemental hell a few times, never regaining ranks). Both are listed in the SERP without the www.
Another site I own is also 9 years old, lots of natural IBLs but fewer authority sources. I originally didn't use www either, over the years so many linkers added them that now the cannonical url is with the w's in all engines. Around 2 years ago I realized this, gave in and now use only the www version. Ranking is holding fine.
There could be other reasons for the ranking problems, but any new sites I make, I add the w's right from the beginning to avoid potential problem. So far (knock on wood) they are doing pretty well.
| 3:26 pm on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I just did a random search for "quebec city widgets" and 2 of the results on the 1st page were from a domain and subdomain with TWO hyphens:
Another listing from the domain can be found on the second result page. This is a very popular query for its sector, and for a "made for spam" domain to eat up 2 slots in the top 10 makes me inclined to think that either this technique is the ultimate, or Google would rather we click on the highly targeted ads rather than on those pesky "organic" results. I know we all have to make a buck, but come on...
| 3:33 pm on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)|
I don't believe dashes make any difference or not .. it will just be the same, good SEO, good content and time..
type in traffic is most likely without hyphens..
[edited by: Lobo at 3:34 pm (utc) on Sep. 19, 2006]
| 3:49 pm on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)|
Get control of both versions if you can.
I have a domain "three-word-phrase.com" that ranks well in a competitive sector, but I don't have control of the non-hyphenated version and I sure wish I did. The hyphens work just fine if all someone has to do is click a link, but they're a major impediment for offline promotion.
| 4:04 pm on Sep 19, 2006 (gmt 0)|
buckwork is corect - get both. i would go without the dashes first. but make sure it is a dot com domain, not dot net or dot biz.
i've used dashes in my site address and it can certainly rank #1 on google and yahoo!