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Passing internal PR 6 to index?
zap995




msg:3051027
 4:09 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

My main page is a PR 5 and most of my hotter internal pages are just PR4 at best. However one of my internal article pages has PR6. Are there any tactics I can use to try to pass more PR back to the main page?

I don't really know why this one ended up PR6, because I've had other stories with more BLs from equally big sites. Anyhow, It's cool that it is a 6. Was created in May and the article still holds its rank.

Cheers!

 

tedster




msg:3051152
 6:11 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you've already got one link to the Home Page from the high PR page, then there's nothing more you can do on that domain, as far as I know. You could spread some of that PR to another domain, and if that domain links to your Home Page, that would generate a boost -- at least according to the original PageRank formula.

However, this is known as 3-way or triangle linking. It's not exactly a "natural" pattern and Google is not so happy about it. Both domains can take a hit if it's done in the extreme. Even without a true penalty, the links can be de-valued and the domains involved can become "flagged" as related if they weren't seen as related or "affiliated" before.

I mostly see internal PR beating Home Page PR when a domain has created something quite valuable on the internal page and lots of people give it a deep link. If that's your situation, congratulations and well done in serving your market well.

I'd suggest you just enjoy the PR that you've earned and not try to manipulate it. If you do try, you might end up hurting your situation, so it's better to stay focused on providing value to your visitors. More and more, THAT is what Google is finding ways to reward.

However, DO check your Home Page links on every page and make sure they all point to http://www.example.com/ -- exactly in that form, rather than to "index.html" and so on. If you link to Home in any other way, it's possible that your Home Page is being seen as two different urls, and your natural PR may be split into two piles, with one of them filtered out of the search results as duplicate content.

reseller




msg:3051156
 6:22 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good morning tedster

"However, DO check your Home Page links on every page and make sure they all point to http://www.example.com/ -- exactly in that form, rather than to "index.html" and so on. If you link to Home in any other way, it's possible that your Home Page is being seen as two different urls, and your natural PR may be split into two piles, with one of them filtered out of the search results as duplicate content."

Very interesting indeed!

But how about the rest of internal site linking. If we use http://www.example.com/ to link to the home page, shouldn't we be consistent and use the same form for the rest of the site? example:

http://www.example.com/widget1.htm, http://www.example.com/widget2.htm etc..

wheelie34




msg:3051255
 8:26 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

But how about the rest of internal site linking. If we use http://www.example.com/ to link to the home page, shouldn't we be consistent and use the same form for the rest of the site? example:

http://www.example.com/widget1.htm, http://www.example.com/widget2.htm etc..

Good point Reseller, I DO link direct to home via the full www.example.com not to index.* but as you state what is best for internal, I have found linking to folders via folder/ (not folder/index.*) sometimes creates a problem when linking to the root of the folder from within the folder via / can loose the / so have had to link to the folder/index.* then you end up with links to folder/ and folder/index.* so have now returned to linking direct to the folder index page.

OR should we be linking to

www.example.com/folder/
or
www.example.com/folder/index*

Any views most welocome

yves1




msg:3051302
 9:34 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Like Tedster says, I would just do nothing and enjoy enjoy the PR6 of this page.

Based on the original PR formula, you could remove all outgoing links except the one to the home page from you PR6 page. This way, all of its "PR potential" would be distributed to the home page.

Well that's only theory. In fact doing that could result in damaging the Google ranking of your PR6 page on its keywords (because you would change its content). And Google ranking is much more important than PR.

aff developer




msg:3051304
 9:34 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

You can also add a 301 redirect in the htaccess file so any variations of the main home page (http://www.site.com/) ie. [site.com,...] [site.com...] [site.com...] permanently redirect. This has worked well on my sites. Same for anyone else?

Halfdeck




msg:3051326
 10:01 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

When linking to other internal pages, I prefer /keyword.html to /keyword/ or /keyword/index.html. Absolute urls on dynamic sites, relative if I'm hand-coding.

zap995




msg:3051400
 11:42 am on Aug 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks everyone for the replies. I do have a link back to the main page on every page, but it's via an image (part of a header), not a text link. Is that a problem?

Also, oddly, Google Webmaster Tools lists some other internal pages as my highest PR for August, July, and June... yet when I check these pages with a page rank tool, they show no PR. Thoughts?

trinorthlighting




msg:3054583
 4:23 pm on Aug 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hmm, that is interesting, did you check both versions, www and non www?

RandomOne




msg:3055164
 1:34 am on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

I was wondering wouldn't linking ro [domain.com...] instead of index.htm be using up bandwidth as each time a person clicks within your site to your homepage your server reloads the whole site again?
I'm not sure just looking for answers Thanks!

tedster




msg:3055198
 2:35 am on Aug 22, 2006 (gmt 0)

No -- when you request the domain root from the server, it still ony serves just one page and not the "whole site". And if the browser is set to cache urls, as most are, then any images, scripts, etc that the Home Page uses and were previously downloaded will not be downloaded a second time. So there's no bandwidth difference between /index.html and example.com -- it will be the same situation.

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