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Datacenter Watch: 2006-07-21
colin_h




msg:3017108
 11:38 am on Jul 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

< continued from [webmasterworld.com...] >

In the past two upheavals by Google (8th March 2006 & June 27th 2006)it has been apparent that the changes have been roughly accross the board, with the obvious exception of the 64.233.189.104 DC.

The DC seems to use the same cache dates as the other DC's and has the same amount of supplemental pages also, and yet somehow it has ignored any penalties that have been applied to the other DC's and gives treats my site as though nothing were wrong.

Any idea what the purpose of this DC could be?

All the Best

Col :-)

[edited by: tedster at 7:46 pm (utc) on July 21, 2006]

 

JoeSinkwitz




msg:3023127
 8:13 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

The phrase I lost and then regained was a 2 KW phrase (not in dmoz, no geographic issues).

The ODP connection continues to be quite curious; one thing those of you that got hit can do is take the dmoz directory where your site is listed, and methodically print out the top 100 for the phrases you think a filter might be occuring on. If the "" consistently is showing more of the dmoz sites, then it is a definite filter, and one that I really do think they'll get a handle on.

Sorry this is still going on for you guys (and gals). I'm looking forward to hearing back from those of you that applied the NOODP tag and see success over the next few days.

Cygnus

sandpetra




msg:3023133
 8:16 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

This might seem totally ignorant but perhaps if you see your site dissappear from the SERPS and none of your competitors do it is because the weight of the pages linking to your page has been devalued thru some filter?

Would this not account for you dissappearing and competitors not?

surfing1




msg:3023137
 8:18 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Cygnus, I am glad you are still sticking around to watch the chaos :) Thanks for the tip.

D

giuliorapetti




msg:3023147
 8:26 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

yes, I have 2 KW as well ("blue widgets").

One thing that must be said is that a strange behaviour is applying to one of my sites.

Say that I'm second in the ranking with my site WidgetsWorld.Com and 1st is a website called Blue-Widgets.Com.

Observing the various DCs, the ones where I'm vanished and the ones where I'm still in the results, it happens the following:

- On the websites where I'm vanished, Blue-Widgets.Com is still 1st

- On the websites where I'm still ok, I'm now 1st and instead Blue-Widgets.Com is vanished.

It looks like there is not enough room for both websites: it's either Blue-Widgets.Com 1st, without our site in the index, or our site 1st, without Blue-Widgets.Com in the index.

And this is happening on ALL the DCs we are analizing, not only the ones where the microfilter is applied.

I mean to say that I'm either 1st or nowhere on every DC I'm inspecting via mcdar.

Of course another thing must be noted: the same datacenter is alternating reults very often: out of the "(Group A)" of mcdar, today we have been constantly out of the index for 3 or 4 of them, but the rest of the DCs has been showing us in or out (more often out then in, but always with the above behaviour)...

Nothing stable, then, and with the same behaviour

Rugles




msg:3023148
 8:26 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

>> weight of the pages linking to your page has been devalued thru some filter?

Does not seem possible, because the rest the site has not taken the same hit. So it kind of rules that out.

I have considered that we have gained some high value media links over the last two weeks. Can't see why that would hurt us and not help us.

surfing1




msg:3023150
 8:28 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Sandpetra,

That is an interesting thought, but I don't think it applies to my situation. I am either ranking high or I don't exist for a 2 KW phrase at all. If this was the case, I would propably lose ranking for a KW but not disappear like I am now. The wierd thing too is that my 3 KW are still going strong. They would also be affected under that scenario.

However, It seems there may be multiple things going on, so your thought might be somehting for others to digest.

Rugles




msg:3023151
 8:29 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>>It looks like there is not enough room for both websites:

Now that is an interesting observation.

In my case, there has 3 quality sites that compete for this 2 kw term over the last 5 years. In the last several months, I have been consistanly top dog. The other two sites are still there, seemingly unaffected.

giuliorapetti




msg:3023153
 8:35 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Rugles,

And a consequence of it is that at the end of the "game" either our site or their site will be affected.

May be a stabilization of this filter will be deducted when both sites will be back in 1st and second position, or both disappeared...

What is sure is that for the whole day, on all DCs we've been dancing 1st or nowhere and the same did our competitor.

Now, if I can have arguments to support the competitor removal (it's an affiliation site), the same cannot be said for us (as we have all original content).

Rugles




msg:3023157
 8:39 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>What is sure is that for the whole day, on all DCs we've been dancing 1st or nowhere and the same did our competitor.

It is like they are trying to judge the effect of the filter as they perfect it.

I hope it is not going to be a permanent thing.

giuliorapetti




msg:3023173
 8:47 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

well, although this would be a fascinating theory (traffic balancing amongst top sites: the new SERPs democracy) I hope that this "Yo-Yo" dance will stop soon in one way or the other...

steveb




msg:3023201
 9:22 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Gee a few hundred million more blog/redirect pages added to the index in the past hour. One of the maids must've switched the buttons around at the plex... "flush" does not mean "add".

reseller




msg:3023238
 9:45 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Good evening Folks

Fun time :-)

If you have to choose between two terms which might explain what has been happening today since early morning hours my local time (GMT+1) when I posted my first post today on this thread. Which one you will choose:

- Data Refresh (Copyright 2006 by Matt, All rights reserved)

Or....

- Bad Data Push (Copyright 2006 by Adam, All rights reserved)

giuliorapetti




msg:3023245
 9:50 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yo-Yo.

We are "1st or nowhere" since 5am european time on all the datacenters we are monitoring.

What's the difference with a yo-yo? :-)

OrganicPop




msg:3023282
 10:20 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Data Refresh that will take 2 weeks. Is that how long a new/altered filter takes to refresh across the datacenters?

JoeSinkwitz




msg:3023284
 10:22 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

So, are the results showing the disappearing results on ALL datacenters right now, specific data clusters like I was posting before, or on specific IPs that you're accustomed to checking?

If the results come back with the "", then it is a filter that is triggered; it is likely related to the datapush and the following relevancy testing that necessitated it, but is probably not resultant of the datapush in and of itself (otherwise the results probably wouldn't show either way). Just IMHO.

Keep your hopes alive people; the more you learn about what's going on, the better off you'll be when it likely happens again 30 days from now.

Cygnus

[edited by: JoeSinkwitz at 10:22 pm (utc) on July 26, 2006]

reseller




msg:3023321
 10:49 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi Folks

Leaving you with this Google Datacenters Watch Magic of the day!

Here is how one of my competative keyphrase (widget1 widget2 widget3) which used to be #2 on top of the serps of mighty Google, ended up today on this ONE set of DCs:

[64.233.161.99...] (vanished. Doesn't return back by "")

[64.233.161.104...] (vanished. Doesn't return back by "")

[64.233.161.107...] (vanished. Doesn't return back by "")

[64.233.161.147...] (#4)

Now. I'm a very kind tolerant old reseller. I'm gonna give those youngster engineers at the plex the benefit of the doubt. However, I expect them to return back my lovely keyphrase to where it was yesterday; #2 , or else :-)

Good night all and God bless.

[edited by: reseller at 10:55 pm (utc) on July 26, 2006]

RichTC




msg:3023324
 10:51 pm on Jul 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

What set of data centre results is 66.102.9.104 in? Only i thought the results were better than ive seen recently.

Are these updated results or the old ones?, Im trying to keep up with this thread.

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[edited by: tedster at 10:38 pm (utc) on July 28, 2006]

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