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Google Supports NOODP Tag
rustybrick

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 6:46 pm on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

[sitemaps.blogspot.com...]

To direct all search engines that support the meta tag not to use ODP information for the page's description, use the following:

<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOODP">

To direct Google specifically from using this information to describe a page, use the following:

<META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOODP">


 

SteveJohnston

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 9:58 pm on Jul 13, 2006 (gmt 0)


System: The following message was spliced on to this thread from: http://www.webmasterworld.com/google/3006187.htm [webmasterworld.com] by tedster - 12:08 am on July 14, 2006 (EDT -4)


The SiteMaps blog said today:

To direct all search engines that support the meta tag not to use ODP information for the page's description, use the following:

<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOODP">

[sitemaps.blogspot.com...]

The Google help center has slightly more details:
[google.com...]

At last, is all I can say.

Steve

Phil_Payne

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 8:26 am on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

> At last, is all I can say.

A good start was my response. Now if we can only get rid of the other pernicious effects of the ODP.

[edited by: Phil_Payne at 8:27 am (utc) on July 14, 2006]

keyplyr

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 10:18 am on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've asked this before; still wondering if it's now valid to use:

<meta name="robots" content="noodp,noarchive">

Instead of:

<meta name="robots" content="noarchive">
<meta name="robots" content="noodp">

henry0

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 11:09 am on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Should I understand that it could mean:

If you are not ref to by DMOZ then it might be a good idea to use:
<META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOODP">

g1smd

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 1:18 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I would put the new parameter as the last one in the list, so that if a bot chokes on it, it has already got all the others.

zuses

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 3:42 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

And what about title? D'u think this teg will help?

SteveJohnston

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 4:08 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've asked this before; still wondering if it's now valid to use:

<meta name="robots" content="noodp,noarchive">

keyplyr, in the Google Answers reference it says:

"If you use the robots meta tag for other directives, you can combine those. For instance:

<META NAME="GOOGLEBOT" CONTENT="NOODP, NOFOLLOW">"

So, yes, you can.

And, zuses, The Google Answers details also makes it clearer that this means both Title and Description snippets will not be drawn from dmoz.

Steve

keyplyr

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 6:14 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the confirmation Steve - every little byte saved :)

g1smd

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 7:06 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I assume that you use this tag only on exact pages that are listed in ODP, not on the whole site?

SenorLoco

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 7:09 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

"And what about title? D'u think this teg will help? "

This is my question too.

Since the June 27th screw up, my site shows the Title tag from ODP, but the meta from my site.

wmuser

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 10:15 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

SteveJohnston [webmasterworld.com...] returns 404

That seems to be a good news since now we can tell Googlebot our version of our website description

mgpapas

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 11:04 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have the same question about the title. Will this tag make them not use it? Or is this only for the description. I'll be happy if they stop using the description but I'll be much happier if they stop using the ODP title as well. It's barely relevant to what my site now offers 5 years after it was added and trying to get it changed is like beating your head against a wall.

I looked on the msnsearch forum section about this tag and saw no followup on that question has anyone been using it for awhile for msn and know whether it stops them from using the title as well?

gldnratio

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 11:16 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

what is ODP?

jatar_k

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 11:19 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

Open Directory Project
[dmoz.org...]

LunaC

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 11:19 pm on Jul 14, 2006 (gmt 0)

ODP = Open directory project, also sometimes called DMOZ.

I read on another forum that they had confirmation that it will also remove the ODP title tag.

sailorjwd

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 1:53 am on Jul 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

finally!

I tried for 5 years to get dmoz to change my site description after my business model changed.

reseller

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 8:31 pm on Jul 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Kudos to the Sitemaps googlers for making such vital option available for publishers.

Personaly, my main site homepage started to show recently on all DCs the ONE WORD title which a "kind" DMOZ editor has chosen from the 5 words of my actual title (which has been there for years).

Returning back home from a short vacation, today I have just added to my homepage:

<META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOODP">

With both Googlebot and Google Adsense visiting my site daily at present, it would be very interesting to see whether changes will happen as fast as MC mentioned in his recent post. [mattcutts.com]

amythepoet

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 11:22 pm on Jul 15, 2006 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I have a sitemap already on my site - Is it necessary to have a google site-map too?

What happens if I am constantly adding new content, right now, I add the new pages to the site map on my site

is that enough or what?

thanks

g1smd

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 12:14 am on Jul 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

If you are indexed, then there is no need for any additional work.

An HTML sitemap made for your visitors and for bots will be just fine.

zuses

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 5:54 am on Jul 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Thank u, Steve:) I hope it'll work

Quadrille

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 10:04 am on Jul 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

Fantastic news!

This means that thousands upon thousands of sites will revert to spammy keyword-stuffed titles and descriptions, allowing the good sites to stand out from the crowd. :)

And in the 0.01% of cases where the ODP information was outdated or misleading, sites can correct it. ;)

marketingmagic

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 12:38 pm on Jul 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

I've implemented this for MSN some time ago and our rankings went in the tanker afterwards. Careful how/when you use this.

Quadrille

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 12:43 pm on Jul 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

That's interesting - do you think the whole ODP connection is discounted? No 'link benefit' at all?

Would the tag be the same as removal from the directory?

coosblues

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 4:56 am on Jul 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

That's great news to me too. My site has two ODP listing, but one of them which should have the URL for a specific page has my homepage's URL. It's gotten to be quite a mess. I hope the tag works.

Ride45

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 6:07 am on Jul 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

marketingmagic,
I'll bet it was just a coincidence of timing and you tanked for other reasons than implementing the noodp tag.

Jay7

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Msg#: 3005968 posted 8:31 am on Jul 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

My page title and description have finally changed in Google and are much more appropriate now. However, the change didn't influence ranking for the important keyword and is exactly same as with the old ODP title and description. So I still have to wait and hope my site's listing in ODP will be changed one day, since the important keyword is not in the title yet and the site doesn't rank so well for it.

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