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Google Files Facial Password Patent
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msg:4581662
 2:00 pm on Jun 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Users could soon be asked to pull a series of faces to unlock their Android phones or tablets.

Google has filed a patent suggesting users stick out their tongue or wrinkle their nose in place of a password.

It says requiring specific gestures could prevent the existing Face Unlock facility being fooled by photos.Google Files Facial Password Patent [bbc.co.uk]
However, Google acknowledges even this might not be enough, envisaging a situation in which a device could be programmed to generate a video showing the user making the requested facial expressions.

 

seoskunk




msg:4581853
 6:43 pm on Jun 6, 2013 (gmt 0)

Silly idea, I mean if the wind changes your be stuck with that face

Sgt_Kickaxe




msg:4581962
 5:28 am on Jun 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

Silly? I'd wager it's an attempt by Google to have people get used to setting aside their privacy concerns. Google's invested extremely heavily into things like Glass, Maps and anything that gathers your most personal details. Getting you to make various faces which Google records has other applications, like helping drones recognize you etc.

I'd like to see a new Google idea that doesn't involve personal information being shared with them, it's been a long while.

diberry




msg:4582105
 3:22 pm on Jun 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

I was thinking yesterday how much of what Google does could easily be used by the government in tracking people and so on. And then I thought: it could have been being used that way already. For years. We wouldn't know until ages after the fact.

dstiles




msg:4582202
 8:49 pm on Jun 7, 2013 (gmt 0)

> what Google does could easily be used by the government

What makes you think this is not already happening?

This week's reports about National Security Agency’s covert cell-phone and email data collection surveillance programs (verizon was named but since the orders include "gagging" orders, how many other large data companies comply quietly?); "outing" of secret court surveilance orders on US and "foreign" individuals without cause (gagging orders ditto); orders from USA-based companies to their UK/Euro subsidiaries to release data from their UK/EU-based Clouds for gov processing (which is illegal but hey! the fines are minimal). And gmail is certainly not exempt.

What worries me is that I am FORCED to use googleapis in order to pay for services I need. Is my data (including credit cards) also a) being fed to feds and b) likely to be hacked into due to lax security? The cloud is in danger of being hacked and once in the lot is accessible.

There is also, this week, an inquiry into Huwaei (sp?) equipment being installed in UK (BT) telecoms centers. The Chinese company has been accused several times of having backdoors in their equipment whence they can acquire sensitive data. The Chinese retaliate in general terms to accusations of hacking by pointing out the US gov uses illegal botnets to try to break into their country's secrets.

I shall be glad when I can log off of 90% of the internet - or better still, 100% and disconnect the phone.

On the original topic: I doubt face-identification is a valid security method anyway, even if people were willing to comply. Two methods proposed (quite seriously) this week were electronic tatoos and an electronic pill that one swallowed - gods know how one would get a read-out from that, to say nothing of short-term "throughput".

A lot of the so-called secure identification ideas include mandatory SMS or other "advanced" phone connections: how is a mobile-phone-less individual like me ever going to be identified? When I tried to change banks a few years ago I was told I would need a) a passport (not got one); b) a bus pass (ditto); or c) a gun license (presumably so I could force them to issue me an account at gunpoint). No mention of birth certificates, length of residence in country (life-time) or other realistice means.

Let G play face-games. Let them try to distinguish between five panthers at a face-painting (look into this gadget so your face can ratify your payment). When it gets that bad, I'm off.

diberry




msg:4582283
 5:03 am on Jun 8, 2013 (gmt 0)


What makes you think this is not already happening?


My very next sentence was "And then I thought: it could have been being used that way already." Seriously, that is the shortest post I've ever written that got a "tl;dr" response. It was almost short enough for Twitter!

jecasc




msg:4583458
 12:49 pm on Jun 12, 2013 (gmt 0)

Wow. That's exciting. You could for example be asked to blink your eyes.

Wait... The Samsung Galaxy 4 already does that.

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