StoutFiles
msg:4415566 | 6:26 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
25 bucks a year? No thanks.
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Panthro
msg:4415572 | 6:40 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Really surprised they're paying anything at all.
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engine
msg:4415584 | 6:53 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
>Really surprised they're paying anything at all.
Yeah, that surprised me, too.
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lexipixel
msg:4415598 | 7:52 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Many articles about Facebook's recent IPO filing have stated the value of a user's profile (to marketers) at somewhere around $125.00 (US).
If the same is true for Google, that $25 relates to a 20% cost of good. In business terms, "product" at the wholesale level should sell for 5x cost of goods -- so the math is about right, and "users" are raw materials.
I wonder if you have a higher annual income, drive a better car, live in more expensive house and shop at higher end stores than "average folks" if the personal data herders will consider you a "USDA Grade A Prime User" and pay a bit more for you... <grin>moo-moo, baa-baa</grin>
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J_RaD
msg:4415612 | 8:57 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
wow, ok well just come out and just ask people to install black box data collectors in their homes.
RUN!
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johnhh
msg:4415631 | 9:54 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I think this concept has been tried before .. many years back... and it failed.
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hal12b
msg:4415634 | 9:58 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
This program is a joke. No thanks
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dstiles
msg:4415635 | 9:58 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
If anyone finds the User-Agent for this extension (assuming it's open and not stealth) I for one will use it to block visitors. It's not just chrome users who are being shafted: web site owners will suffer from this as well.
If it's stealth then I need to consider blocking chrome users. Which has already crossed my mind. :(
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martinibuster
msg:4415637 | 10:15 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Will these people be typical of the kind of site visitor that is valuable to advertisers?
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seoskunk
msg:4415641 | 10:30 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I thought they already knew anyway. May as well get paid for it
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lucy24
msg:4415651 | 11:57 pm on Feb 8, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| it will pay Chrome users in Amazon gift cards |
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Lots of food for speculation there. Do they get a kickback from Amazon? Or just buy the gift cards at a bulk discount? And why Chrome users only? I would have thought everything but Chrome, since they're already getting the Chrome data for free. Uhm. Aren't they?
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numnum
msg:4415661 | 12:23 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Meet the 21st-century Nielson families.
Hmm. $25. Tempting, I must say. But not because I need the money, although mind you that is some serious coin. It's just that I'd really like to share my daily routine with Larry -- to wit:
Hang out at Wolfram-Alpha for a while. Then cruise over to the official Katy Perry fan site. Then over to Cornell's law database. Then dish about the Kardashians over at E-Online. And wrap it up with some quality time at Webmaster World.
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Staffa
msg:4415663 | 12:36 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| install black box data collectors |
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It's already done. I recently blocked a Google IP range which was calling home from Firefox even when I was working on a copy of my web site on my Win PC using IIS and there is not one character of G code on any of these pages.
So what triggered this ?
I now use a little, unknown browser for local work which does not call home ;o)
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Sgt_Kickaxe
msg:4415664 | 12:55 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Absolutely not, my privacy is worth more to me than $5 every three months, it's insulting.
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seoskunk
msg:4415670 | 1:14 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Do you think we will be able to gain a list of participants and then bribe them to visit our sites. I mean it worked that way for the record industry.......
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lexipixel
msg:4415673 | 1:29 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
It's more likely being done to evade government privacy crackdowns.
If the surfer is getting paid even $1.00 by Google, I believe that means the user has entered a contract to allow the data collection. This will make a much better legal argument for Google than "we provide them with search services" or "we provide them with mapping/browsing/mobile OS/etc software at no cost in exchange for allowing us to collect, store and market their data".
IAMNAL, but I believe the basic precept of contract law is that in order for a contract to be put into force, the parties must formalize the terms of the agreement and exchange something of value.
In other, but apparently related news.... since Google's Screenwise has partnered with "Knowledge Networks" to do these things..
GfK acquires Knowledge Networks
Nuremberg, December 9, 2011 – GfK will be acquiring 100% ownership of Knowledge Networks Inc., a leading provider of digital research solutions in the US. Through the acquisition, GfK demonstrates its commitment to drive growth, in the US and globally, by providing the highest quality research solutions, tailored to the new realities of the digital age....
[gfkamerica.com...] |
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"GfK" is: GfK SE Data Services, Nordwestring 101, Nuernberg, DE, --- (the "DE" stands for Deutschland a.k.a. Germany, not Delaware).
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Marshall
msg:4415674 | 1:29 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| Meet the 21st-century Nielson families. |
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Nielsen ratings were often skewed by people who actually did not watch the shows they claimed. Many just checked off shows randomly in order to complete the process, or in the case of electronic monitoring, just left the TV on. That being said, I wonder how many people will serf randomly just to get the gift card.
| Lots of food for speculation there. Do they get a kickback from Amazon? |
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Makes me wonder about the seemingly Amazon leaning SERPs. Coincidence?
Marshall
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Staffa
msg:4415689 | 2:42 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
In the last few months I noticed GfK DE a couple of times.
It came by one of my sites with the regular Googlebot as UA and got booted because of the DE IP number
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tangor
msg:4415696 | 3:09 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
I recall, just a few years ago, that folks were commenting on Bing's "Cash Back" program! Gee, what will these guys (not) do to get ahead?
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Web_speed
msg:4415698 | 3:27 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
What will they think of next?
Trust them to "organize the world’s information" accordingly...
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micklearn
msg:4415716 | 4:51 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| Participants must be 13 years old or older |
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I think this is the part that bothers me the most. The word 'predatory' comes to mind. Who is most likely to think $25 is worth installing something they probably don't fully understand?
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ember
msg:4415725 | 5:33 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
So now personal privacy is worth $25? How low have we sunk?
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Marketing Guy
msg:4415760 | 9:01 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Hand over all your data for minimal payment? What is this Adsense for Individuals? ;)
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SEOPTI
msg:4415764 | 9:20 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
A new antichrist is born, look at the banks they do the same.
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shri
msg:4415766 | 9:23 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Do they get a kickback from Amazon? Or just buy the gift cards at a bulk discount?
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Regardless, they get to mine a users purchases on Amazon.
How long before Google rolls out their own reader? :)
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sem4u
msg:4415768 | 9:33 am on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Not for me, but I can see the program being popular with teenagers who might want to buy a game or something from Amazon.
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longen
msg:4415915 | 3:13 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
This may an attempt by Google to get some of the data currently off limits behind the Facebook firewall.
Secondly, if G can educate people into seeing that their profiles have value it would create financial difficulties for Facebook, seeing as they will soon a have a billion members.
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mrguy
msg:4415936 | 3:54 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Let me see, I charge 50 an hour for my services.
Google wants to pay me 25 bucks to monitor EVERYTHING I do over a protracted period of time. This includes anything exchanged on my home network or those times I get bored and fire up private browser and dare I say surf a little *orn. Not to mention this will help them target my affiliate sites even better.
Are you flipping kidding me?
This is like the 3 little pigs in the brick house opening the door and saying "come in mr wolf, we believe you won't eat us".
Sorry, but they would have to pay me a lot more than 25 backs to get a raw feed into my life.
People say they already do, well no they don't. I don't use any Google products and currently give them ZERO in data from my online activities and never will.
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aspdaddy
msg:4415945 | 4:24 pm on Feb 9, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Spyware is nothing new. We and Google know full well that they dont need to pay anything for this type of data from the types of users they are targetting. They are choosing to make a small financial transaction with a large number of users, for legal reasons.
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