celgins
msg:4410222 | 1:09 pm on Jan 24, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| "It’s changed somewhat – it now resides at a site called “Focus On The User” and credit is given to engineers at Facebook, Twitter, and Myspace..." |
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So they are all collaborating to poke 'ol Google in the eye. It will be interesting to see when (not if) this hack surfaces.
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Pfui
msg:4410295 | 3:42 pm on Jan 24, 2012 (gmt 0) |
From the FAQ:
| Our code is open source, so anyone may turn this into a browser extension |
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Scroll down for the link to the .js file: http://www.focusontheuser.org/faq.php
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J_RaD
msg:4410321 | 4:33 pm on Jan 24, 2012 (gmt 0) |
how about goog forcing / tricking new users into creating a G+ account
[googlesystem.blogspot.com...]
goog has slipped the G+ stuff in there so good new gmail users are unknowingly creating an account that will be out in the public facing web.
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Samizdata
msg:4410343 | 5:45 pm on Jan 24, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Whether it's GoogleBook or FacePlus, to "focus on the user" means:
Phase 1: Lock them in
Phase 2: Mine their data
Phase 3: Profit
Pots and kettles spring to mind.
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Andem
msg:4410491 | 12:18 am on Jan 25, 2012 (gmt 0) |
>> Pots and kettles spring to mind.
Not exactly. Facebook is a social network and it has always been that. Users should have been aware that by creating a Facebook profile, you were signing yourself up to a social network.
Google, on the other hand, is trying to exploit its monopoly in search combined with their popular mail product to force users into a social network. Forcing users to use Google Plus is against the very grain of Google's slogan and supposed philosophy.
I think you can compare this to Microsoft forcing new users of their OS to use Internet Explorer as a first step.
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albo
msg:4410515 | 1:27 am on Jan 25, 2012 (gmt 0) |
G is forcing all new users into G+, and now sharing all user data across products. With a consolidated privacy policy. This'll make a more meaningful Search+.
Resistance is futile.
I saw an interesting article on the effect all this SPYW is having on the quality/relevance of G search. Sarah Lacy wrote an "op-ed" at pandodaily titled "Google: Do Yourself a Favor and Just Come Clean Already". The URL is: [pandodaily.com...]
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Samizdata
msg:4410526 | 2:10 am on Jan 25, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| Facebook is a social network |
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I thought it was a data mining business that makes its profits from advertising.
Must get out more.
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graeme_p
msg:4410556 | 5:15 am on Jan 25, 2012 (gmt 0) |
@albo, the comments on that page contain the best defenses of Google I have heard so far:
[pandodaily.com ]
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Sgt_Kickaxe
msg:4410583 | 7:46 am on Jan 25, 2012 (gmt 0) |
| New Google Accounts Require Gmail and Google+ |
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That's from the Google registration page, Google+ is now mandatory too (they also ask gender question despite being constitutionally offensive, wth!?!).
Tick, tock... It's a good time to launch a new email service imo.
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graeme_p
msg:4410598 | 8:40 am on Jan 25, 2012 (gmt 0) |
You can remove Google+ features from your Google account. I assume this means its enabled by default for new accounts?
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graeme_p
msg:4410627 | 10:40 am on Jan 25, 2012 (gmt 0) |
Sorry, my last question is answered in one of the linked posts: you can still delete your profile, but its apparently created by default (albeit fairly empty) when you create a Google account.
Still a lot less evil and Facebook's constantly changing privacy settings, but not the standard they set themselves.
To me the big issue is Google+ results in the SERPS as opposed to other social networks. I would rather see neither.
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engine
msg:4411546 | 4:49 pm on Jan 27, 2012 (gmt 0) |
That bookmarklet is now a Firefox add-on. Just search in addons for 'dont be evil'
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J_RaD
msg:4411572 | 6:29 pm on Jan 27, 2012 (gmt 0) |
how about
"use another search engine"
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