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Google Investigating Inside Help Over Hack
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Msg#: 4062841 posted 2:47 pm on Jan 18, 2010 (gmt 0)

Google Investigating Inside Help Over Hack [news.yahoo.com]
Google is investigating whether one or more employees may have helped facilitate a cyber-attack that the U.S. search giant said it was a victim of in mid-December, two sources told Reuters on Monday.

The sources, who are familiar with the situation, told Reuters that the attack, which targeted people who have access to specific parts of Google networks, may have been facilitated by people working in Google China's office.

"We're not commenting on rumor and speculation. This is an ongoing investigation, and we simply cannot comment on the details," a Google spokeswoman said.


 

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 2:55 pm on Jan 18, 2010 (gmt 0)

Very probable actually. Most corporate crime is performed or helped by insiders.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 5:06 pm on Jan 18, 2010 (gmt 0)

Most all vulnerabilities are discovered through an intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the system.

An outsider would have trouble gaining the level of insight needed to pull this off.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 5:32 pm on Jan 18, 2010 (gmt 0)

Google said they are pulling out of China because they are no longer willing to censor results. Could the real reason be Google feel theatend by Beijing employees with access to the core?

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 6:16 pm on Jan 18, 2010 (gmt 0)

Espionage 101. Foreign corporation hires Chinese nationals who are really PLA intelligence officers. Who better to keep an eye on what those capitalists are doing?

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 7:51 pm on Jan 18, 2010 (gmt 0)

Google said they are pulling out of China because they are no longer willing to censor results.

That is not correct.

Google has stated that they will no longer censor there .cn results.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 9:23 pm on Jan 18, 2010 (gmt 0)

but they still are.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 9:24 pm on Jan 18, 2010 (gmt 0)

I'm sure it takes some time to wind down an operation.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 1:50 am on Jan 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

It will be interesting to see how Google handles all the data that they find. This is kind of scary because if there were insiders working for the Chinese Gov't I wonder how the US Gov't will react.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 6:21 am on Jan 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

If you want to control people control what information they have access to, that's why as an American I never watch, read, or otherwise consume any American media.

- John

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 3:40 pm on Jan 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

Personally I don't think this is an if, but 'how many.' Considering how many people (from Silicon valley for IP espionage to State Department employees) use Google products this was a treasure trove for China's version of the CIA. If you are form China and planning on applying to Google, better have your plan B, IMO. News broke last night that US journalists had their Gmail accounts hacked too. [pcworld.com...] . Stay tuned, it has just started

This is kind of scary because if there were insiders working for the Chinese Gov't I wonder how the US Gov't will react.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 5:33 pm on Jan 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

After all this and all the other shady things we hear about China, how can anyone trust to do business there?

The only thing that China has is its super big population, otherwise, the experience is not worth it. I just don't trust them. It will take them a whole new generation to be on par with the west when it comes to Trust, Accountability, Honesty etc.

Actually hold on? Even the new generation will be spoiled as they are the ones being taught to hack into all these governments and corporations.

Something has to be done. Otherwise, you can never trust China again.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 6:15 pm on Jan 19, 2010 (gmt 0)

When we stop buying Chinese made goods, especially electronics because of security, health and/or safety concerns China will start to pay attention. But first we have to stop buying their stuff.

I'm still looking for a laptop that does not have any Chinese components.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 10:48 am on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

This is kind of scary because if there were insiders working for the Chinese Gov't I wonder how the US Gov't will react.

China holds an awful lot of our debt. Some have observed that China could do some serious damage to our economy without causing much damage to its own. I doubt the US Gov't will do much beyond noisemaking.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 2:23 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

"If you owe $10,000 it's your problem, if you owe $100,000,000 it's the bank's problem." A version of a quote attributed to D Trump.

Going to econ war with their biggest consumer is the dumbest move for China, so let's not go crazy here. And let's forget that he technology is Western, the Chinese are just the cheap manufactures and they have the smog and poisoned rivers to show for it.

China holds an awful lot of our debt. Some have observed that China could do some serious damage to our economy without causing much damage to its own. I doubt the US Gov't will do much beyond noisemaking.

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Msg#: 4062841 posted 3:40 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

When we stop buying Chinese made goods, especially electronics because of security, health and/or safety concerns China will start to pay attention. But first we have to stop buying their stuff.

This won't happen though, China holds over 75% of the total USA debt. They hold that debt over your governments head and tell them.... buy more stuff from us.

You know when China owed the Brits all that money Britain just took Hong Kong and it's ports over for 99 years. Hope China doesn't get the same idea to collect from the USA.

walkman



 
Msg#: 4062841 posted 3:55 pm on Jan 22, 2010 (gmt 0)

China holds over 75% of the total USA debt

This is not true

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