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Google Lands Deal to Put Chrome Browser in Sony PCs
Google's first such deal with a PC vendor
Robert Charlton




msg:3981759
 6:13 am on Sep 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

Google Lands Deal to Put Chrome Browser in Sony PCs [pcworld.com]
PC World, Aug 31, 2009

Google has forged a deal to distribute Chrome in Sony PCs sold in North America, the company's first such deal with a PC vendor and one of a number of efforts to popularize the Internet browser....

...The Sony deal marks an important step for Chrome into PCs. Launched almost exactly a year ago, the browser has had a rough time against rivals such as Microsoft's Internet Explorer and Mozilla's Firefox....


 

mack




msg:3982219
 7:53 pm on Sep 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

This will no doubt help spread the word about Chrome, but does this not raise the same sort of questions that where asked on the IE antitrust case. MS have agreed to offer browser choice on Windows 7 installation. By having a browser pre-installed will this remove user choice. I realise that a bundling agreement with Sony is no where near the volume Microsoft had when they bundled IE with every copy of Windows, but the principle is the same.

Mack.

Tropical Island




msg:3982234
 8:25 pm on Sep 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

They had better fix the "right click" & "select" print options before they roll this out to newbies or they are going to lose a lot of users.

This one issue bugs me more than anything else about Chrome which I generally like & use 90% of the time.

sgietz




msg:3982242
 8:37 pm on Sep 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

Who buys Sony PCs?

blend27




msg:3982309
 10:17 pm on Sep 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

-- Who buys Sony PCs? --

not sure, I only saw 2 in the past 13 years. One back in 1999 when marketing exec asked me for help connecting his CDRom to his Sony laptop - He did not get a job. And the other one was in a basement of the House that I lived in couple of years back. I saw it when the basement got flooded. I think it was called \/A¦0.

signor_john




msg:3982315
 10:30 pm on Sep 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

By having a browser pre-installed will this remove user choice.

How does delivering a computer with two browsers (Chrome and IE, rather than the Windows default of IE only) remove user choice?

brotherhood of LAN




msg:3982317
 10:33 pm on Sep 1, 2009 (gmt 0)

Sony Vaio mid-high range laptops are popular, at least in the UK. Not popular in the US?

mack




msg:3982386
 12:19 am on Sep 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

How does delivering a computer with two browsers (Chrome and IE, rather than the Windows default of IE only) remove user choice?

The choice will already be there by allowing the user a choice of browsers when installing Windows 7. I just hope this deal doesn't overide choice.

Google is talking with other PC vendors as well, and is seeking other ways to increase Chrome's market share

Sounds like Sony was a test run.

Mack.

edit for typo

[edited by: mack at 12:34 am (utc) on Sep. 2, 2009]

tangor




msg:3982388
 12:25 am on Sep 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

How does delivering a computer with two browsers (Chrome and IE, rather than the Windows default of IE only) remove user choice?

Choice of two, leaving out Opera, Safari, and all the others... Difference here is Google has nothing to do with Windows. Smacks of Jesus phones and AT&T to me. :)

signor_john




msg:3982416
 1:59 am on Sep 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

Choice of two, leaving out Opera, Safari, and all the others

Just what we need--even more shovelware. :-) For quite a few users, even two browsers will be one too many.

Hugene




msg:3982846
 6:28 pm on Sep 2, 2009 (gmt 0)

I use Chrome, and I love the tab-thread feature, but where are these basics:

Print Selection, why isn't that working?
The Home Button?

grelmar




msg:3983109
 2:25 am on Sep 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

My problem with Chrome is it's absolutely awfully hooks with JVM. Java should be platform/browser independent, but Chrome blocks a lot of heavy Java apps from working for bizarre, unpredictable reasons.

For casual surfers, this isn't a big deal. For corporate users, it's a nightmare. You'd be amazed at how many company specific Java apps are floating around. If they don't work in a specific browser, then that browser is dead to corporate IT.

Chrome breaks more of these apps than any other browser out there. Which means it's dead to corporate IT.

Not that this should affect the Sony deal. Sony desktops are vanity machines, you don't see them in corporate circles, other than with senior execs who never actually use their machines, and the IT department doesn't actually devote any time to making sure they work.

signor_john




msg:3983483
 5:57 pm on Sep 3, 2009 (gmt 0)

Grelmar, the point of having multiple browsers available isn't just to have choice for choice's sake, but to use the best browser for a given task.

Chrome was designed with "cloud computing" in mind, and for that purpose, it's great: An individual or corporate user can save a Google App as a shortcut on the Windows desktop and have it launch as an application without browser menus, toolbars, and other distractions.

If another browser works better for corporate Java applications, and if Java applications are important to the company or user, then it makes sense to use that browser in that environment.

PCInk




msg:3984050
 3:14 pm on Sep 4, 2009 (gmt 0)

Google Chrome hangs really badly. I timed one page click at over three minutes (and it wasn't the internet connection). If I were not computer savvy, I may have thought it was the computer. It's not a one off and is complained about on the internet quite a bit if you search for it. I hope they sort this bug out or Sony are going to get a lot of returns that are not their fault.

grelmar




msg:3984782
 6:06 pm on Sep 5, 2009 (gmt 0)

Grelmar, the point of having multiple browsers available isn't just to have choice for choice's sake, but to use the best browser for a given task.

That's a nice theory, but unworkable in practice. "Joe User" won't use multiple browsers because one offers slight performance boosts in one area, and a different browser offers improved performance in others.

They'll use the one browser that works best, on average, over the span of their activities. If a browser fails to work for even one "mission critical" function, it might remain installed, but I can almost guarantee it will never be launched.

I'm not dissing Chrome. It's a funky little browser with lots of potential. But it isn't fully baked yet. Bundling it as the default browser with any hardware manufacturer is, IMHO, a mistake. It's going to lead to a lot of bad first impressions.

The type of people who post here are willing to play around with a new technology, warts and all, and are able to enjoy the wonder of "all the new possibilities" it opens up.

"Joe User" is not so awestruck. He needs a browser that works.

tangor




msg:3985064
 8:07 am on Sep 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

Sony could become the computer manufacturer with "heart" if they opt to install ALL the available browsers with a setup screen etc (Windows will be doing that anyway if the EUC has their way).

This Google deal, however, will send cash to Sony, and of course Google hopes to cash in...

Not the same thing...

signor_john




msg:3985242
 10:24 pm on Sep 6, 2009 (gmt 0)

"Joe User" won't use multiple browsers because one offers slight performance boosts in one area, and a different browser offers improved performance in others.

Earlier, you seemed to be talking about "Joe Corporation." There's no reason why Joe the corporate user even has to know that he's using Chrome if the IT person has set up a "cloud computing" application as a shortcut on Joe's Windows desktop. Joe can then happily use Google Docs (or whatever) while regarding IE or Firebox as his "browser" for general business Web surfing, looking at YouTube videos during his lunch hour, etc.

As for Chrome's not being fully baked, I wouldn't expect that of a browser that's five numbered versions behind IE. Still, I use Firefox, Opera, and Chrome routinely, with IE 8 when I have to, and I've got to say that I like Chrome best for 95 percent of what I do. In terms of text presentation and readability, it's better than Firefox or Opera and nearly as good (though not quite as good) as the more sluggish and more crash-prone Internet Explorer.

Tropical Island




msg:3990272
 1:28 pm on Sep 16, 2009 (gmt 0)

Just downloaded the new version 3.0.195.21.

Print selection is now working - yeah!

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