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Viacom Renews Attack On Google
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Msg#: 3530376 posted 4:28 pm on Dec 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Viacom ramped up its offensive against Google yesterday, saying that it would not back down from its $1 billion lawsuit against the internet search engine.

Philippe Dauman, Viacom's chief executive, said that Google had not done enough to prevent content from being illegally uploaded to YouTube, and gave no impression that a settlement was near to being reached.

Viacom Renews Attack On Google [business.timesonline.co.uk]

Clearly, this is their way of putting pressure on Google for an easier settlement to its lawsuit.

 

loner

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 5:04 pm on Dec 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

There's a technology already available called the legal system. Maybe they Viacom and Google should join together and sue the party RESPONSIBLE for uploading the illegal content? Sure, they might have a fleet of dog-tailing Chevy's, broken color TV's and kid's toys they'd have to push through EBay or somewhere, but the problem would stop pronto.

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 6:43 pm on Dec 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

Today I got an email from the Adsense team where they give tips "that may help you monitor your network for policy violations"... maybe i could forward that to youtube?

:->

P!

ispy



 
Msg#: 3530376 posted 2:34 am on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

To choose to not get involved is not neutral, its evil.

thecoalman

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 2:57 am on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

My views remains the same, if Viacom wins this lawsuit it's going to have vast implications for any site that allows user generated content. It's simply not possible for a web site owner to police every image, video or written text submitted by the general public. The only alternative would to be to not allow user generated content or face the possiblity of lawsuits.

Leonidas

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 7:34 am on Dec 19, 2007 (gmt 0)

It's simply not possible for a web site owner to police every image, video or written text submitted by the general public.

It's a condition of our professional indemnity insurance that we do this policing, and we do, even though it is expensive to do so. To me, this is part of the cost of doing business.

And, taking the example the provision of file upload and file sharing sites (where users regularly upload our copyright protected material), these are almost designed to help users infringe copyright. If they're not actively monitored for copyright infringement, then site owners get what they deserve if they're sued, IMHO.

Angelis

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 9:51 am on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

Viacom should drop it and work with Google on this.

It's no different than someone dropping a stolen TV on my front lawn and then me getting arrested for handing stolen items.

Sure you can stop it from happening but you cant police everything, Viacom should work with Google to fix it, it will be of more benefit to them in the long run.

zett

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 11:26 am on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

It's no different than someone dropping a stolen TV on my front lawn and then me getting arrested for handing stolen items.

What about the big signpost on your lawn, saying "drop your valuable goods here. It's free! And, by the way, we don't care whether stolen or not!"

;-)

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 11:08 pm on Dec 20, 2007 (gmt 0)

What about the big signpost on your lawn, saying "drop your valuable goods here. It's free! And, by the way, we don't care whether stolen or not!"

Uh, where does youtube say anything like that? Read the terms of use, section 6, subsections B, D and F.

mattg3

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 4:48 am on Jan 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Soon the whole of UK television will be on youtube .. if that would be gone .. bebo et al would collapse ... now imagine the thought of people actually doing their own content ... and getting paid for it what a ridiculous idea ... working would suddenly make sense again ..

Surely you can't police everybody, but on Youtube it certainly has reached pathetic proportions. The whole thing would collapse as even "socalled" self made videos (Dog under X-Mas tree) regularly feature commercial music.

My gf that is a regular social network user of the Youtube inclusion type regularly wonders if videos suddenly disappear, no matter how often I tell her that's all illegal.

mattg3

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Msg#: 3530376 posted 5:03 am on Jan 12, 2008 (gmt 0)

Uh, where does youtube say anything like that? Read the terms of use, section 6, subsections B, D and F.

Yeah, but would you buy that house knowing that the telly on the lawn is stolen?

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