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Google Gadget Ventures Launched: Funding Available
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msg:3381261
 3:47 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Google Gadget Ventures is a new Google pilot program dedicated to helping developers create richer, more useful Google Gadgets. Inspired by the success of iGoogle, which has been driven by the creation by 3rd-party developers of a broad range of gadgets,

Grants of $5,000 for gadgets Google likes, or seed investments of $100,000 to developers building a business on Google gadgets.
[google.com...]

 

menial




msg:3381288
 4:01 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Build a Perpetuum mobile, give all the rights to Google, and get 5K. Sounds like a great business plan ;)

blend27




msg:3381335
 4:53 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

-- Sounds like a great business plan ---

no, it sounds like PHD's run out of juice. No pun intended :)

RonPK




msg:3381425
 6:57 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

@menial: where does it say that developers "give all the rights to Google"?

menial




msg:3381427
 7:08 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

@menial: where does it say that developers "give all the rights to Google"?

It should be obvious. That's the reason they pay you so that they have the proof you have already been rewarded for your job (and can claim no further rights to the invention/project in the future). You may check their employee agreement (which, I'm sure, applies to contract workers/inventors too):

Assignment of Inventions at Google, Inc: I agree that I will promptly make full written disclosure to the Company [Google], withholding trust and full right and benefit for the Company, and hereby assign to the Company, or its designee, all my right, title and interest in and to any and all inventions, original works of authorship, developments, concepts, improvements or trade secrets, whether or not patentable or registerable under copyright or similar laws, which I may solely or jointly conceive or develop or practice, or cause to be conceived or developed, or reduced to practice during the period of time I am in the employ of the Company (collectively referred to as "Inventions").

googlewatch.eweek.com/content/inside_google/robert_cringely_says_google_has.html

rohitj




msg:3381432
 7:18 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

to the above poster: I would suggest spending 5 minutes reading the FAQ, as your statement is completely wrong.

menial




msg:3381442
 7:32 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

I would suggest spending 5 minutes reading the FAQ

The FAQs are just general statements (most of the times written by PR specialists). What matters is the actual AGREEMENT between the inventor and Google that will have to be signed before Google gives the 5K/100K reward.

Obviously, the detailed agreement is not available to the public because it contains "statements written in small font."

pontifex




msg:3381577
 10:30 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

I wonder, if that idea was born in the wrong marketing area of a business brain.

I would not have given myspace 5k in their first few days online, yet they are huge.

Building cool "gadgets" is not the thing, the thing is building gadgets, which drive traffic. If the gadgets topic is "see cameron diaz half naked" it would probably drive more traffic than one, that allows you to calculate the exact temperature for new dehli in 5 years in summer. where the second is extremly complex and a very sophisticated scientific solution. but the audience would just not care?

I have no idea, what their intention is with that plan, but javascript driven (spider unfriendly) content gadgets are in no case bringing any value?

reminds me of the amazing marketing SUN did for java... fruitless!

2 pennies,
P!

incrediBILL




msg:3381634
 11:50 pm on Jun 28, 2007 (gmt 0)

Did anyone read the FAQ and notice the keyword density for...

Google Gadgets directory that generates 250,000 weekly page views

It's like a mantra chanted over and over

rebelde




msg:3381669
 1:24 am on Jun 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Google Gadgets directory that generates 250,000 weekly page views

Where do you find the page view numbers for gadgets? I don't see them anywhere.

callivert




msg:3381699
 2:01 am on Jun 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

Google Gadgets directory that generates 250,000 weekly page views

That exact phrase occurs no less than 6 times in the FAQ.
They're spamming themselves!

RonPK




msg:3381865
 7:32 am on Jun 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

@rebelde: every gadget has an information page that states the name of the developer, the number of users, and weekly pageviews. In the gadget directory, click on the link above the gadget. Or, in the gadget's title bar, click on 'About this gadget'.

@menial: sounds like mistrust to me. I'll see if I can get around to submitting a proposal myself. Will let you know when Google's lawyers ring the door bell.

andye




msg:3381929
 10:01 am on Jun 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

@menial: where does it say that developers "give all the rights to Google"?

It should be obvious. That's the reason they pay you so that they have the proof you have already been rewarded for your job (and can claim no further rights to the invention/project in the future). You may check their employee agreement (which, I'm sure, applies to contract workers/inventors too)

menial, you're assuming that there's a 'work for hire' employment relationship being created here.

As far as I can see, that's not the case. G is buying equity, which doesn't create an employee relationship. So I don't see why their standard employment contract would apply.


FAQS
6. Does Google's seed investment in a Google Gadget give it equity solely in the gadget or the entire company that produced it?
Google's investments will be in companies, and the equity for that investment will be equity in these companies.

Best wishes, A.

goodroi




msg:3381982
 11:38 am on Jun 29, 2007 (gmt 0)

let's keep it nice and professional here.

i doubt google will use an exact copy of the employee agreement. they have enough lawyers working for them to create a specific document. let's wait and hear from someone who actually goes through the gadget submission process and avoid possible rude comments.

Jaunty Edward




msg:3384456
 7:40 pm on Jul 2, 2007 (gmt 0)

250,000 times a week... thats one million in a month... If I could have that many impressions on my site $5000 wouldnt have been that big.

I dont see many gadgets getting anywhere close to that.... its only going to help google.

Regards,
Jaunty

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