It appears that miva are already feeding ( totally randomly and nothing whatsoever to do with the word typed into the address bar ) google ads ..on their french partners sites at least..the pages stuffed full of random google adwords ads that "Alice"( Telecom Italia who bought out Tiscali ) that I mentioned here [webmasterworld.com] come from google ..
But the first link on the page full of links ( that one gets after typing any word at all into the address bar of any browser if "Alice" is ones ISP and hitting enter ) is marked clearly as provided by Miva ..and one is redirected after 7 seconds ( if you have jscript enabled and dont click on another of the links presented ) to the ( randomly selected from their scammed advertiser pool ) advertisers page ..
The links are all of this type [220.127.116.11...]
each contains the 18.104.22.168/mclick.do? ..the rest of the link varies as one goes down the page ..
The redirect is always to the top link ..which is sometimes a banner when it is a banner the underlying link code which one sees "on hover" just before the redirect happens includes the word miva and then similar code to the other links on the page ..
the redirect always shows this domain "tracker.affistats.com" fleetingly in the address bar just before the eventual page of the advertiser opens abd the address bar then reads as their page url ..
this full url below ..is typical of what one sees
so one knows who is keeping track of the money ;-)
But the advertisers are definately not being sent interested customers ( when did Miva ever send interested real customers to any advertiser? ) ..Now they are using inventory supplied by google ..direct from the google syndicated servers ..and this is in response to random words typed into the address bar of any browser at all running on any machine connected to the Tiscali ADSL service in France ..
I ran over 100 separate words into my address bar ..from "plankton" to "beans" to "camera" via "fromage" ..and then ran in some nonesense made up ones ..such as "kyethlm" or "xcvbn" or "qsdfgh" ( taken from the lines on my azerty keyboard ) ..
each time the result was the same ( wether IE ..Opera ..or Firefox ) ..type the word in the address bar ..hit enter ..
"the browser then prefixes it with http://
and adds a trailing slash ..so you get for example [plankton...]
which immediately refreshes to the ISP's ad laden page run by itself along with miva and fed by google ..
and you get a page entitled ..
upon which is written in bold type at the top
"Aucun site ne correspond à l'adresse que vous nous avez indiquée.
Nous vous proposons de vous rediriger dans 7 secondes vers le site sponsorisé ci-dessous :"
( for those who dont read french ..that translates as "No site corresponds to the address you have given" .."We propose to redirect you in 7 secondsto the sponsored site below" ) ..
which also does not ever contain anything remotely connected to what one has typed in the address bar ..But the adverstiser ( a google adwords client ) has now paid for me to be redirected to their page ..by my ISP and Miva ..and the whole transaction was logged by "affistats" ..
So far they have only been feeding me french sites paid for by googles french adwords customers ..
Who obviously have no idea that they are being ripped off and their budget used up this way via redirects which admit they have nothing to do with the words typed into the address bar ..
this behaviour is mentioned nowhere in the contract I have with my ISP ..and Google and Miva are keeping damned quiet about it too ..it has been happening since long before this "announcement" ..
and it may well be happening with your adwords budget ..
for now they seem to be geotargetting the delivered syndicated google ads ( this is not adsense ) these are not marked ads by google ..these are presented as "sponsored links" .( but it doesnt say whois delivering them like adsense does ) .and joe and jane sixpack average surfer dont know how to watch for aff tracking codes and how to block redirects to see what is going on with their browser during this bait and switch ..
this is what miva and google and a french ISP are already doing ..
maybe other ISP's in other countries are also already doing similar things with google and miva ..
as advertisers ..and adwords customers ..who are paying for this totally untargetted "traffic" ..
how does that make you feel?
BTW before anyone asks ..no this is not a browser hijack ..this is being done via the ISP's own ADSL connection program which tries continuosly whether or not I'm actually using an open browser to connect to google syndicate server in the 82.101.8 block day and night ( I block it from doing so ) ..and there has never been any toolbar on this machine ..I tried 6 machines on this connection and the same result ..tried in the last 3 days 5 other Alice/Tiscali ADSL connection belonging to friends ..same behaviour ..except that their machines are in almost permanent contact via undeclared "phone homes" to Google ..wether or not they have an open browser ..use of wi-fi connection appears to show that it is also built into the DSL router supplied by the ISP