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MSN not liking sites with AdSense?
Praxus




msg:1535411
 8:36 pm on Jun 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I had two loans sites that were added to MSN a month ago. One I added adsense to after it was indexed, the other not. The one with no adsense was respidered yesterday and is now on page 5 for its very competitive keywords. I am assuming the one with adsense was respidered too, because its now GONE. Not only that, but I cannot get any new sites I created added to MSN AT ALL that have adsense on them.

Looks like MSN is now totally disregarding sites with ( too much? ) adsense.

 

woop01




msg:1535412
 9:23 pm on Jun 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Based on everything we've seen, this is a completely bogus claim.

jchampliaud




msg:1535413
 9:43 pm on Jun 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

I have to agree with woop01, all my sites have AdSense on them and some do better in MSN than in Google.

msndude




msg:1535414
 9:49 pm on Jun 24, 2006 (gmt 0)

Praxus: That's certainly not by design. I suspect something else is wrong with your site to cause this.

However, we'd like to check this one out -- just in case -- because if it really is our bug, it's very serious and we'd want to fix it immediately. Would you be willing to send me a "sticky" with the actual URLs of the sites in question? If you will, I'll see if I can find the problem on Monday.

Thanks!

Praxus




msg:1535415
 6:13 am on Jun 25, 2006 (gmt 0)

From what I've heard on this and other boards, it looks like I assumed wrongly since others are posting that they aren't having problems.

But I'll still send you the urls on monday, msndude.
Thank you for your response...

Praxus




msg:1535416
 7:15 pm on Jun 26, 2006 (gmt 0)

Msndude, I pm'd you the sites that aren't getting picked up.

Gotta be the first time I've had sites get indexed by google before MSN!

Praxus




msg:1535417
 7:05 pm on Jun 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

Ok - I just read someone was saying MSN hasn't been indexing new sites for the past 3-4 weeks, so perhaps the issue is much larger here than just my new sites that I can't get indexed.

[edited by: jatar_k at 7:52 pm (utc) on June 29, 2006]

Marcia




msg:1535418
 7:27 pm on Jun 29, 2006 (gmt 0)

>>now on page 5

Big ups and downs aren't unusual for MSN from what I've seen. I've got one site that went from #2 to #8, back up to #3 and yesterday down to page 3. It's happened before, and in a couple of weeks it was back up again.

Junanagoh




msg:1535419
 5:18 pm on Jun 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

" Ok - I just read someone was saying MSN hasn't been indexing new sites for the past 3-4 weeks, so perhaps the issue is much larger here than just my new sites that I can't get indexed."

I have a site that doesnt even have any links to it that got indexed about 3 weeks ago. Also all my keywords are ranked the same on MSN as they did months ago :)

cabowabo




msg:1535420
 9:13 pm on Jun 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

Looks like MSN is now totally disregarding sites with ( too much? ) adsense.

Comments such as this with testing on just two sites needs to stop. This is how people get led astray ...

Instead, ask, "Can anyone veryify that MSN is disgregarding sites with AdSense or it is just my sites?"

joeking




msg:1535421
 11:37 pm on Jun 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

agree with cabowabo - theories portrayed as fact do nobody any good.

Praxus




msg:1535422
 11:58 pm on Jun 30, 2006 (gmt 0)

I agree too, and wanted to change my title soon after posting - but found I can't edit my posts.

Anyways, the title has a question mark, so its obviously not a statement, of fact or otherwise.

Praxus




msg:1535423
 12:01 am on Jul 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

oh nm I see you were talking about something else.

I'm just going to shut up, I can't post without an edit button :)

benevolent001




msg:1535424
 7:19 am on Jul 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

i dont feel like this, i have website which use adsense but gets more visitors from msn then google.so saying using ads hampers your msn rating won't be right

rytis




msg:1535425
 9:44 am on Jul 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

From my experience (4 sites, 2 years w/adsense), MSN search algo treats pages/sites with or without adsense just the same.

R

Praxus




msg:1535426
 4:27 pm on Jul 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

Yes its definitely something else. I changed all the sites in question a bit after they were rejected, but left the adsense, and resubmitted them. No luck. Then I resubmitted one site under a different domain name, and boom, it was indexed in 2 days like the old msn I know and love. So who knows!

p180




msg:1535427
 10:36 pm on Jul 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

dont think so, i have adsense on both of my sites and they are spidered and ranked better in MSN. infact for a few keywords one of my site is ranked in top 3, not bad for a 5month old site :D

tictoc




msg:1535428
 2:04 am on Jul 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Has anyone seen any problems with MSN not liking Yahoo Publisher sites?

I run YPN on my main page then some google adsense on the other pages and have seen my site only come up for some sub-pages instead of the homepage.

msndude




msg:1535429
 8:10 pm on Jul 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

Does your robots.txt file exclude "/I"? Is your homepage named "index.htm"?

wmuser




msg:1535430
 11:37 pm on Jul 3, 2006 (gmt 0)

Rarely MSN will use such a technique

brizad




msg:1535431
 3:47 am on Jul 5, 2006 (gmt 0)

My experience over the last couple of months is that MSN is being much more selective in indexing new sites than they used to be. I do sometimes get indexed by google faster than by MSN and that's a huge change from the way it used to be.

msndude




msg:1535432
 3:42 am on Jul 7, 2006 (gmt 0)

Crawl rate can go up and down for a variety of reasons. Try not to read too much into it.

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