Dijkgraaf
msg:1532531 | 10:10 am on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
The page takes awfully long to load the first time.
Hopefully they fix that, otherwise people aren't going to stick around.
And the "Oops, we seem to be having a problem with this feed. Please try again later." doesn't impress either, oh well it is a Beta. Yes, no need to change pages for search results, but how far are you going to scroll through results before giving up?
You will probably still need to be ranked near the top for your keywords to get any traffic. It is more than just a search page, looks like they are integrating your hotmail and their new version of messenger as well.
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Pass the Dutchie
msg:1532532 | 1:09 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I like the fact you get a scrolling list of results and that you dont have to go from one page to another. The option to expand or shrink results is also a nice feature. Despite this if they want to carve up a piece of the Search market then they have to improve search results which are poor.
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designhaus
msg:1532533 | 1:30 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
love the ability to search within a search result! very clever
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stuartmcdonald
msg:1532534 | 1:37 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
how you can manage the detail of the results is good, but I hate, really hate the scrolling effect. As with others, took about three quarters of an eon to load.
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vincevincevince
msg:1532535 | 1:55 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
Usability and accessibility test results summary: Windows Live search (0/10)
Google Search (8/10) For illustrative purposes, the result of trying to use both services with lynx 2.8.5dev.16 are shown below. Windows Live:
Home page:
# Windows Live
#Windows Live Search
____________________ Search
IFRAME: naviframe
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Resulting page from a search for 'test':
# Windows Live
#Windows Live Search
____________________ Search
IFRAME: naviframe
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Google:
Home page:
Google
Personalized Home ¦ Sign in
Google
Web Images Groups News Froogle Local more »
_______________________________________________________
Google Search I'm Feeling Lucky Advanced Search
Preferences
Language Tools
Advertising Programs - Business Solutions - About Google
©2006 Google
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Resulting page from a search for 'test':
test - Google Search (p1 of 2)
Sign in
Go to Google Home Web Images Groups News Froogle Local more »
test_____________________________________ Search Advanced Search
Preferences
Web Results 1 - 10 of about 1,980,000,000 for test [definition]. (0.15 seconds)
Site One Title
Site One Snippet ...
www.siteone URL/ - 36k - Cached - Similar pages
Site Two Title
Site Two Snippet ...
www.sitetwo URL/ - 36k - Cached - Similar pages
etc etc etc...
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If the service isn't made a lot more accessible I hope that Google funds someone in a legal case against Microsoft Live. Personally I cannot stand their interface - it is complex, it isn't intuitive, and it is very very slow.
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natim
msg:1532536 | 2:04 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
Puzzling why they would use overture results on sponsored listings here when they have adcenter.
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surin_p3
msg:1532537 | 2:06 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
Wow... this is the best search engine around today... And I have (and need) only one raeson:
I am on the first page for many of my sites... :)
As opposed to the second or fifth on Google. The improvements they can make according to me are: * Faster loading
* It is a bit unclear (the text) on my laptop anyways
* When using the "more or less" text feature in the middle of a scroll it jumps from away from the text you have. Well thats it for me today. Take care everybody
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afterburner
msg:1532538 | 2:08 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I like the fact that they are at least trying different things, got to give them some credit.
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Ledfish
msg:1532539 | 2:23 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I have to agree with what someelse said, the load time is terrible. Other than that I noticed some result listed that had an IP address listed as the url. Would it be better to show the domain name rather than the IP Address. When I see an IP Address rather than a domain name, it just yells spam. Also on a specific search for a keyword, I found a listing that was nothing more than a test page. The keyword was not even on the page. So it doesn't appear to me that Windows Live concerns itself much with content. To me, this look like a high schooler's attempt at a search engine. Not what I would expect from Billy Gates and frankly if this is representative of Microsofts search engine development team, I would seriously consider firing the whole team. I realize it is just a beta product, but for a company like Microsoft, that is just plain embarrassing.
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dazzlindonna
msg:1532540 | 2:29 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I absolutely love it. It's simply brilliant. Yes, it's in beta, and needs a few tweaks, but overall I think it is near perfection in design and functionality. Awesome!
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zeus
msg:1532541 | 2:33 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I like the results, design, new features and the image layout is also great they give a bigger benefit for the users sites and does not only steal the pictures.
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mattglet
msg:1532542 | 2:38 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
The ideas are there for sure... I'm interested in seeing how they expand, and make things better after some usage data is collected. The usability factor isn't that great yet, but it shows promise.
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vincevincevince
msg:1532543 | 2:40 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
Totally non-functional without javascript support (not even an attempt at functionality). If you scroll down and then hold down the scroll-down button it crashes Firefox 100% repeatably. The number of problems I find with this are enormous. This is not beta, this is early alpha and should never have been released!
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AhmedF
msg:1532544 | 2:45 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I think it looks ince, the roving search feature is interesting, but at the same time I think its crap. The search navigation is really horrible - I cant open a search result in a new tab (what in the ...) and after clicking on a search result and pressing back, it all fell apart.
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trillianjedi
msg:1532545 | 2:49 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
Very nicely done - I can see big potential here with lots of good ideas. Implementation needs a little work. Of course it is beta so can't hold that against them, but if they want it launched by summer, someone's going to be having some late nights ;-) TJ
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rj87uk
msg:1532546 | 3:18 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I don't link the way the results are being displayed - It looks too small and stuck in that box... (Using Firefox)
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walkman
msg:1532547 | 3:21 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
>> If the service isn't made a lot more accessible I hope that Google funds someone in a legal case against Microsoft Live. Personally I cannot stand their interface - it is complex, it isn't intuitive, and it is very very slow. Sue them because you want to use lynx and can't access the advanced features? It's slow as hell, but nothing a few server farms wouldn't solve.
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vincevincevince
msg:1532548 | 3:25 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
| Sue them because you want to use lynx and can't access the advanced features? |
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No, because it is very difficult or impossible to use with a screen-reading browser, or screen-reading software.
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Giacomo
msg:1532549 | 3:29 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
Search doesn't work in my Firefox 1.5.
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r3nz0
msg:1532550 | 3:50 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I think Microsoft is shaking with this idea.. The technics are Cewl and almost a incredible w3schools job! Congratulations for that Team Live.com. But in my opinion they forget that it is all about information... fast and easy.. The scrolling effect in the SERPS are cewl but i still want page navigation links... so build them both! I only tested live.com on IE sinds my Firefox isnt working anymore. [edited by: r3nz0 at 3:55 pm (utc) on Mar. 8, 2006]
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Jordo needs a drink
msg:1532551 | 3:54 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
The referer is only the live site address. It doesn't show the search query or keywords. So you don't know what keywords brought the visitor to your site.
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bedlam
msg:1532552 | 5:15 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
| Totally non-functional without javascript support (not even an attempt at functionality). |
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True. And in Firefox, watch the Javascript Console while you're on the search page :-o -b
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Rugles
msg:1532553 | 6:12 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
It is going to be easy to spam it. I can see a spammy doorway page I put up 7 years ago ranking #1. Other than the fact the results are not any better, I like the look.
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Rugles
msg:1532554 | 6:15 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
The image search is neat. But very slow.
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Bilbo123
msg:1532555 | 7:18 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I believe that MSN is a bit misdirected. Google got their market share by first focusing on great search results. Then the traffic started to flow. Then they built great tools to keep people interested. MSN hasn't got the first task of search down yet.
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phpdude
msg:1532556 | 7:22 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
Wow! If this is their answer to Google, I think Google has nothing to worry about. I see the old style spam pages generated on the fly loaded with keywords all over the place. Their current msn search is better than the live search. You can relax Google, no serious challenge here.
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SuddenlySara
msg:1532557 | 8:23 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
I really don't like the scroll feature. Much easier for me to use my browser scroll. Search and page is way to slow on my laptop with Verizon's so called wireless broadband.
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SuddenlySara
msg:1532558 | 11:38 pm on Mar 8, 2006 (gmt 0) |
Just tried live beta on my home computer and same answer, "The scroll feature is horrible". Can't tell where I'm at on live? I want a search engine that will give me the results easy and I can scroll with my browser and hit next page and so on.
I use my back and forth buttons on my browser all the time when I search because I do try many pages on a SE to find what I'm looking for. Live Beta's scrolling feature will help you dig a hole to China but good luck going back to that site you found on the 2nd page...?
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hughie
msg:1532559 | 12:07 am on Mar 9, 2006 (gmt 0) |
that's really really annoying, what's wrong with the browser scroll? If i want to go to position 65 on google i move my bar and blamo, i'm there in 0.2 seconds. If i want to get there on "live" it takes 3-4 seconds and thus, i'm bored and i've gone back to google.
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