>>>b) The sites displayed have spam meta tags piled to the rafters
not in sectors i've looked at, perhaps the sites you mention are up there for other reasons, they just happen to have heavy meta tags as well.
>>Have MSN given up doing this properly already?
i couldn't disagree more, i launched a site last week and it has already been spidered and listed in msn search ... seems to me they are raising the stakes not lowering them.
i also like the results - people are complaining because they are diff to google, but what would be the point if they were the same? i think there are many good sites in many sectors, they can't all be top.
I've been looking at these new results. They seem to be very heavily orientated towards meta tags and the url itself.
Uh, in the sector I watch the number 1 site for a competitive 12mil result query uses clean meta tags and does not have the query in or closely associated with the domain. The number 2 site does not use meta tags and is also is on a domain not associated with the query.
I wonder if the engine is broken, or if people who don't know how to optimize can't be bothered with taking the time to learn?
looks like MSN have updated their algo today and is now showing .com urls that are UK based again, i for 1 am very happy as we are back up into no 1 position for our .com url after it got dumped 2 weeks ago in the last update. Good work MSN, glad you are on the case and are prepared to listen to people unlike the "stock" answers you get from "other" search engines ;-)