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MSN is fast
Posted link last night, in SERP today
treeline




msg:1534677
 12:35 am on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Late last night I finished a new website, published it, and posted a link to it on 2 pages of an established site. The link text is essentially "Location keyword1 keyword2" which is also the title of the page. Domain name is brandable, not keyword.

On a lark I searched for the title today, and both the links came up at the top of the SERPs. Now, msnbot likes to visit me, but this surprised me. This takes a lot longer on Y or G usually. Typical for MSN?

 

Mindy




msg:1534678
 8:28 am on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Actually, we've been finding the opposite. Most of our very large site has not yet been indexed, which is strange as the spider is around a lot and the pages which have been indexed are scoring very well. I wish they'd hurry up and get the rest of it in there! The pages it does seem to crawl regularly don't get recrawled nearly as often as by other SE spiders.

pmkpmk




msg:1534679
 8:57 am on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I support treelines findings: usually within a day or two new pages are up and ranking high.

b0rdslide




msg:1534680
 9:23 am on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I see the same as treeline also, although deep pages of sites are still not being indexed.

Kev

Nikke




msg:1534681
 9:25 am on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think freshnes is important on MSN. At least at the moment.

Try playing with the fresh slider, and you will see that fresh is the default setting.

Mr_N




msg:1534682
 1:25 am on Feb 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

I submitted a site two weeks ago and haven't even been spidered yet. :( Should I email them and ask what the hubbub is?

indodpendo




msg:1534683
 3:50 am on Feb 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

My site hassnt been indexed by none of the sites all the way only 4 pages but msn did get my site on there engines fast the main page in like a day or 2.

Imaster




msg:1534684
 6:52 am on Feb 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree with b0rdslide, MSN finds new sites pretty fast, but for large sites, it is yet unable to index deeper pages.

pendanticist




msg:1534685
 7:10 am on Feb 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was one of the ones who origionally 'discovered' the new msn bot some time back, and I find it to be the worst engine out there, with respect to finding something out of what they've been crawling through.

Words that always show me in the top ten, I don't even find thru msn's search. Find them on all the other major engines, but not msn.

Sure, I can throw my title in there and whoops, there it is. But, that's not the way I search.

Matt Probert




msg:1534686
 11:00 am on Feb 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

Just checking, found that MSN has indeed spidered and listed a tiny community site I run. The site was included in the MSN search results within days of going online, and has no great links to it. Top marks to MSN!

Matt

garyr_h




msg:1534687
 7:28 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I was one of the ones who origionally 'discovered' the new msn bot some time back, and I find it to be the worst engine out there, with respect to finding something out of what they've been crawling through.

Words that always show me in the top ten, I don't even find thru msn's search. Find them on all the other major engines, but not msn.

Sure, I can throw my title in there and whoops, there it is. But, that's not the way I search.

So it's the worst search engine because your site isn't listed in the top 10? ;)

rj87uk




msg:1534688
 9:01 am on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think pendanticist was only saying that msn are not picking up on users search habbits yet.. :)

cleanup




msg:1534689
 1:12 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Not one to be negative about MSN but..although links are picked up fast, page changes do not seem to be.

A title change I made five weeks ago was picked up quite fast by Google and Yahoo! but is not yet reflected in MSN.

BillyS




msg:1534690
 2:16 pm on Mar 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

MSN is going through growing pains. They pick up pages quickly, but they really don't update their search results as frequently as promised (I think I read a release stating they were updating every 2 days.)

I know this because I do searches for terms that I have dedicated a page to, but instead they refer the user to a page that links to the correct page. I check the index, the "correct" page is in the index, but it is nowhere to be found in the search results.

They're smart and will work through this, but right now it is not where it should be. All things considered, they are doing a great job and I look forward to these improvements.

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