| 10:32 am on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Good Post pmac
Being very new to Froogle, and just near the end of completing a data feed ready for submission, it should be interesting to see where we come up with the different descriptions and category's
| 2:52 pm on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
From this article [internetnews.com].
Craig Nevill-Manning, the technical lead on Froogle says:
|Froogle uses the same page ranking system as Google. |
| 7:54 pm on Dec 17, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Thanks for the post, pmac, very nice.
>> The category that Froogle places your product into plays a significant role.
Yes, I will *speculatively* agree.
One: If you search within a category and your site/products are not in that category, your products will not be appear in a search.
Two: In a regular froogle search, I think it does play a role in ranking. I recently had my products changed to a different category because we weren't showing up within searches in that category. After the category change, not only are we listed in searches within that category, our ranking improved for KW phrases in the regular search. No other changes were made besides the category change.
I have more specualtion to contribute, I'll get it organized and do so soon.
Added: pmac - It looks like this forum is going to need a moderator soon. Any chance that you're considering it;)?
| 3:10 am on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Good to hear mona. How did you get the category changed?
| 10:38 pm on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)|
"google does not accept affiliates"
How is affiliate defined? We provide service to a number of stores operating through the same shopping cart with different domains owned by different shopkeepers. We maintain the servers and shopping cart technology, and do the fulfillment of the orders for the different stores. The home page and a few informational about us type pages is unique on each site. The rest of the content on over 15,000 pages is the same aside from the company logos, names and color schemes. Would these be seen as affiliates? Any thoughts on this appreciated.
| 10:55 pm on Dec 18, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I have always used the category that fits best from Froogle and not my own site.
In that case I can change the category in the feed and Froogle will update it and list it in the new section.
| 7:27 pm on Dec 19, 2003 (gmt 0)|
>> How did you get the category changed?
I e-mailed Support and asked them how. Here's part of the reply "I changed a setting so your products will start appearing in the (widgets) category the next time you upload a data feed." They didn't say there was a way to pick/change the category myself, so I'm guessing they have to do it? But...
>> In that case I can change the category in the feed and Froogle will update it and list it in the new section.
Conard, you found a way to list your products in a specific category yourself? Did I miss this somewhere in the datafeed info they send?
| 3:33 am on Dec 31, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I just use the Froogle category in the feed.
In my feed it's the next to last entry for the product right before "Product Code".
So for a womans clothing accessory it would be:
Apparel & Accessories > men's > Women's Example
I set my first feed up that way and they approved it and I've been doing it that way since.
[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 6:50 pm (utc) on Jan. 7, 2004]
[edit reason] widgetized [/edit]
| 7:21 pm on Jan 7, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Thanks for the post. Wasn't familiar with that "store:your_froogle_username" syntax.
| 12:21 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
great post pmac!
As I'm not a commercial guy ,I didn't know Frrogle very well, but now I do!
| 3:00 am on Jan 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
"The product category (using your sites category structure"
I understand its easyer for the website admin
well for google it would be easer if everyone uses there categories, and you don't have the problem under which category will my products list,
| 11:15 am on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Thanks for the nice post pmac!
| 9:03 pm on Jan 13, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Good information. Am I the only one that thinks its odd that a product comparison search would not place a hefty weight on price in their results?
| 3:59 am on Jan 15, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Great post Pmac.
Though Yahoo! Stores, BidVille & others , have a direct/auto feed from their stores - sometimes the quality of the results are poor. I've seen instances where Froogle doesn't display the product image (even if there is a prominent image). So the best way (by far) is to submit a feed.
Patrick, though price is an important criteria it’s not all. Context & relevance is probably the highest importance. Other factors would be “importance (read PR)” of merchant and diversity of results. As Pmac pointed out – Froogle ranking is very similar to Google’s own ranking algo. In any case, once the shopper has narrowed down his choices, he can sort by price.
| 4:46 am on Jan 15, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Actually, I have found several examples of pages ranking very well in Froogle for competitive terms that are not even indexed by Google and are PR 0.
| 11:06 pm on Jan 15, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Today sealed it for me. Pagerank has nothing to do with how Froogle ranks pages.
Brand new page, no inbounds at all (the page was ceated for Froogle)
Ranks number 1 for very competitive word.