| 8:49 am on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
"There" for "their" or "they're", "advise" for "advice". Not sure they are misspellings exactly.
| 8:55 am on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
loose for lose
loosers for losers
loosing for losing
| 2:13 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
When I was in school, I was taught that the comparative in English is "than", like "you are wiser than me". Now I see "then" used everywhere instead. Would you still get a mistake for this in school or is it common practice in all English speaking countries to use "then"?
| 2:17 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I was taught "you are wiser than I". :)
| 2:30 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
"It's" for "its".
| 2:34 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
| 3:17 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
"moran" for "moron"
| 3:19 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
If it is the possesive it has to be it's ..I never saw any other variety of it .
for than ..absolutely not allowed anywhere ..result of sloppy listening and bad diction applied to spelling .
"advise" and "advice" are two different animals the former being what one does ..the latter what one gives when doing the former
>side note to Lawman ..I too was taught and taught "I" as opposed to "me" in that context ..
As the language is normally referred to as "The Queen's English" one would suppose that her speech would be the touchstone ..she still uses "I" ..
However with the almost total lack of competence of English teachers in schools since the 1960's and the even more lamentable levels attained in the subject by their pupils ..apparently the approved usage version has been "dumbed" down so as not to embarrass those who used "me" ..
Examination standards of English ( and many other subjects ) have been falling or were "pushed" to conform to the "PC" idea that there should be no perceivable failures ...of course that doesn't mean that some folks can neither read nor write clearly ..merely that we should not mention it ..
( so now everyone has a paper qualification ..that doesn't mean squat ..but they don't find that out until they have left school with it :(
England has just announced (as if the concept were magically found )..that schools will commence phonetic learning of the alphabet and spelling ..
( seems to me that was how I learned ..nearly 50 years ago )
The problem they will have as will most countries which go back to that approach is in finding enough teachers who can speak correctly and clearly to teach ..
I notice listening to many english politicians that the "glottal stop" is alive and well ..and that most of them have no real grasp of the meaning of the words they use ..the same applies to radio and TV presenters ..
It isn't their accents that bother me ..it is their speaking like barrow boys or girls on amphetamines ..or their total missuse of words ( those "British" who are old enough to remember the comedienne Hilda Baker may remark that most of the current Blair cabinet use words with the same reckless abandon for their real meaning as did Hilda ) ..does nobody ever tell them "actually that is not the correct word for what you wish to convey ..it just sounds like the correct one .."?..
Sounds like a rant ..not really ..if one wishes to communicate one has to agree on a common version of the grunts that we apes use ..be they vocal ..or on paper or screen .:)
| 3:40 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
| 4:09 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Funny thing: Until the web, like most Americans, I thought all English wrote impeccably. Brits seem to have even more trouble with the triad of there, their and they're.
Gee, we've already listed every word that popped into my head when I saw the subject. BTW, I see a lot of really educated people having trouble with
I have young kids. They covered too, two and to in about 2nd grade. I made darn sure they learned these words well when they were starting out.
| 4:12 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
loose vs. lose
Drives me nuts!
| 4:44 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|If it is the possesive it has to be it's ..I never saw any other variety of it . |
Actually, "it's" is a contraction for "it is" or "it has."
The possessive is "its" without an apostrophe.
This is one of those exceptions to the rule, where many think someone is wrong, even when they are correctly using it.
|loose vs. lose |
Drives me nuts!
Yeah.... if any of them bother me, it's that one, especially since it's usually someone calling someone else a "looser."
| 4:52 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|loose vs. lose |
Drives me nuts!
Shouldn't that be "Drive's me nuts"?
| 5:15 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Shouldn't that be "Drive's me nuts"? |
Drives me nuts, I was just lazy and didn't put the "It" in front.
| 5:21 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
This is in my bookmarks: common errors in English [wsu.edu]
Your going to love it (sorry, couldn't resist ;), my moneies on "your" as an abbrev. That's the worst by far and away [wsu.edu]).
| 5:33 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
In travel you find "accommodation" to be widely incorrect
Google for it gives
90 million correct at "accommodation"
10 millioon incorrect at "accomodation"
1 million incorrect at "acommodation"
1 million incorrect at "acomodation"
| 5:38 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
#1 spelling mistake: Goooooogle
| 5:44 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Where I come from, it's butt nekid [wsu.edu].
| 6:41 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Lawman - that's an excellent site. He has an long list of other errors here [wsu.edu]. Thanks for posting that link!
I had to laugh - My wife always switches "bring" and "take" ("could you bring this out to the car?"). I have tried to convince her that they are not interchangeable, but could never find anything to back up the distinction.
| 6:50 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Actually, "it's" is a contraction for "it is" or "it has." |
The rule is that if you make a contraction you substitute the missing letter by an apostrophe
|The mark (') used to indicate the omission of one or more letters from a printed word |
Thus it is it's even when it's the it's you are referring to ..possessive or not ( actually there is an argument to be made for your cited ( it has ..contracted ) example being a possessive usage anyway but presumably you are posting from the USA ..
I prefer American english ..but bending the rules does not negate their existence ..
| 6:58 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I think he meant possessive in this manner: My car has lost its luster.
Sure enough, it was on Brian's list of errors it's/its [wsu.edu] [/edit]
| 8:19 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Yeah, that's what I was talking about.
"Its" is neuter possessive. (possessive, neither masculine nor feminine in gender.)
(@Leosghost)I don't know about rules for variations of english in various countries, so I don't know that we couldn't both be right.
I keep trying to spell possessive wrong, so that's at least a personal one for me. I'm hardly a spelling or grammar expert.
| 8:39 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I caertainly think its getting worse, I deal with people that are barely literate straight out school or worse Uni, and are looking for a job.
They can even phrase Emails correctly.
| 8:54 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|They can even phrase Emails correctly. |
Don't you mean "can't?"
| 8:57 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Thus it is it's even when it's the it's you are referring to ..possessive or not |
? Didn't we already determine that the possessive form does NOT have an apostrophe?
BTW, the possessive "its" is not quite as big an exception as some think: there are NO instances in which an personal pronoun uses an apostrophe to form a possessive. Other cases: ours, yours, hers, theirs
| 8:57 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
affect ¦ effect
| 9:01 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|(@Leosghost)I don't know about rules for variations of english in various countries, so I don't know that we couldn't both be right. |
No, oneguy, you had it right to start with -- the spelling for the neuter possessive "its" is the same everywhere, even here in the U.S.!
| 9:11 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Words like identical - spelled identicle. Invariably done by men, who think just because "testicles" ends in icle so does everything else that sounds the same in the latter part of the word.
I don't let it bother me very much, I figure it's just another manifestation of the gonad fixation that seems to be "normal" for the male of the species.
| 9:46 pm on Dec 21, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Lawman - that's an excellent site. |
I know, I'm the one who posted the link to it ;)
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