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OS Google?

 3:26 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)


" This is Larry and Sergey. These are the biggest dreamers the web has seen in years. They aren't going to toy with building a browser - they are toying with the whole shabang - an Operating System.

This is not a "interface" or "api" war - this is a PLATFORM war!

Page and Brin have more vision in their little pinkies than Woz/Jobs/Gates combined. This foo about indexing the sum total of human knowledge isn't foo - they really believe it. Money is just a tool - knowledge is real power. Those that index the knowledge are the all powerful of the future.

> The platform is dead.

deja vu, Steve Jobs said near the same in 1984. Here we are 20 years later and still using propietary platforms. We'll be here in another 20 years and people will still be saying this "web as platform" horse manure."

- me :-) 2005




 3:46 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Get a truckload of chairs for Ballmer!


 3:51 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I would like to say TOLD YOU SO! Where are those preaching posts I put up last year?

This was the best strategy that Google could employ to have a significant advantage over Microsoft.

Let the wars really begin :)


 3:54 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm sure those images are just a mock-up.

That said, the concept of a massive central PC accessed and controlled by the internet is quite compelling.

The GoOS that will lay the golden egg?


 3:55 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Dont suppose you have a translator do you?


 4:01 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Dont suppose you have a translator do you?

From memory of an English translation I read I think it said concept stuff - how it might work etc.

I think it originated from an Italian site that enjoys trying to predict the future.

It's not real - but it is interesting.



 4:05 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Here you go, done it... Its in simplifed Chinese I think :S

Recently, Microsoft and the search engine giant Google resistance already fried noisily. Regains from the search service to Microsoft China Li joins the lawsuit which Google causes, a series of contradictory makes between two big IT giant the conflict unceasingly to promote. But recently, from one 消息源 obtained a piece without the confirmation news, let the person be startled: Google has the possibility to extend its service domain to the operating system! Google system guidance process This is from the Google operating system truncation chart which one 消息源 obtains. According to 消息源 the description, this system based on GNU/LINUX, uses the HURD/GOOGLE technology essence. It is said that it will have three kind of editions: Inserts the type, moves the version, and the commercial version. This operating system based on the long-distance operating system conceptual design, its essence and the guidance module will solidify in the chip or in 2GB USB KEY, but all applications procedure from Google server safe downloading. But its movement environment possibly will be the next generation motherboard, one kind specially based on Google colony pitch point type computer. But the USB equipment will enable the user to start the computer from USB KEY. But regarding the third kind, namely will face the enterprise level user to say that, in will construct the smallest operating system in the computer, will only have the document management, electronic forms, text editor, as well as Google email customer end, browser and immediate communication software and so on. You thought this is really? Google operating system truncation chart It is said that, this set of systems already in Pentium 4 2.0GHZ processor, on the 256MB memory computer carried on test successfully, system initiation extremely quick, the computer equipment were most can by the automatic diagnosis. Moreover it extremely friendly is also easy based on the XML menu to use. Google operating system truncation chart 2 It seems like that, Microsoft this really must be vigilant, very possibly future everyone's computer will open the machine-hour to appear no longer is Microsoft "the Windows", but was colored Google. Google always unceasingly puts out the new thing to let us be startled, Gmail, Google Earth, Google Talk and so on all is this, if the Google expression must issue own operating system, believed everybody also can after being startled accepts this fact. It is also reported that, But we recently on-line saw this "Google OS" the operating system actually was not really, is only Google amateur's work game, but its manufacture level or quite good. This amateur was Google OS has designed the many kinds of applications domain, inserted the system, the server as well as the motion system. The tabletop designs 有模有样, Google Suite, software and so on File Manager all used the Google style, the document management center document search function had the effect which confused falsehood with the truth. You thought this is false? (Chief-editor: Han Jianguang) Searches for the dog (www.sogou.com) to search: "Google OS", altogether found 78,,492 related homepages


 4:05 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well - even if it is still heresay, I still plan to be saying "told you so" at some point!

A not very good translation is here. [translate.google.com]


[edited by: trillianjedi at 4:09 pm (utc) on Sep. 5, 2005]
[edit reason] Fixing scroll [/edit]


 4:08 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

i havent had my coffee yet, but this link too [mach30.nl ]


 4:33 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Would be nice to see a Google OS but me thinks April Fools 2006 has come early or late :)

I'll keep an open mind on this one.


 4:42 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sure it can be a HOAX

But Google is crazy when they dont start the war.


 4:46 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is only a fake :-)


 5:37 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

"This is only a fake."

Maybe not ...

The dream of a network PC has been in Eric Schmidt's mind since 1995.

For those with access to the archives of the New York Times, you might want to refresh those old dreams with an article by Peter Lewis titled "Doubts About the Fantasy of a $500 'Network PC'" and published on November 27, 1995.

<quote>"The device will have the processing power of a PC; it just doesn't have all that other stuff," like CDROM drives and giant hard disks, Mr. Schmidt said. Because the applications and data will reside in the network rather than on the desktop, it will not matter what operating system or microprocessor is used Mr. Schmidt said.</quote>


 6:09 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

man look at the artwork alone I think there is a clue!

Take what google have built recently


and ask did the same company build the OS screen shots



 6:29 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

>> Maybe not ...

This is the original post in Italian and they blog about the future ;-):


 6:55 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

google would have to be certifiable to come up with yet another linux distro. it would be a complete waste of time and money.

the internet as OS I find more interesting though without appropriate standards I can't see it happening any time soon.


 7:36 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think this is right on the money but I take exception with adding Woz to the picture. Woz had great vision. Apple would have been a different beast altogether had Woz not had the helicopter accident so early into the venture. He was the genius they built Apple around and his brain was never the same after the accident.


 9:03 pm on Sep 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think a Google OS would have an advantage over other Linux distros because Google realizes that UI's have to be "UF" (User Friendly). My guess is that, if they do this, their OS will be a snap to install, possibly launching the setup from within Windows somehow and definitely graphical throughout, and asking the minimum of setup questions. Once installed, the interface will be gorgeously-simple, with tasteful colors, large icons, intuitive, etc. Power users will likely find it oversized and kludgey, and lacking in features that other Linux distributions have. But it will stand a good chance at taking a decent share of the desktop market, simply because it will be the "cool" thing to have. Gmail provides the infrastructure to store a ton of personal documents, Picasa would be integrated for picture-sharing, and pretty much all applications would be web-based using Google as the center of it all.

Pretty scary if you ask me. There was a time that I would have trusted a Google OS. But not anymore; they've been too "fishy" for the past year or so for my liking.


 2:18 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google OS (?)


 7:07 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

That might not be a fake, but I'm pretty sure it is KDE (latest) running on X-Windows with compositing. The transparency looks almost exactly like my desktop and the toolbar is similar. The spreadsheeting and search apps look new though.


 8:01 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

thin client is the way to go, access your applications/remote desktop anywhere no matter what OS your running and then just have a small local loader app that automatically loads your thin client desktop over your existing one.

this way power users can do what they want and normal users can work in the same environment anywhere, simply and easily.

plus you'll be able to share documents with other thinGoogleOS users at a click of a button instead of emailing large attachments in different formats.

Documents could be published on your site/blog in a snap no need for uploading files anymore. Which Google will index first before any other search engine of course.

Google's mission is to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful.


 10:05 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

for google to take microsoft head on where microsoft is unbeatable would have microsoft laughing their pants off. it will require a paradigm shift away from PC based office suites and PC based operating systems before microsoft start to have problems.


 10:13 am on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

it will require a paradigm shift away from PC based office suites and PC based operating systems before microsoft start to have problems.

In some areas that shift is happening now. But it will also require ultra-fast broadband to really be practical. Thin clients on a local network do actually work really well - and it's also a great way to combat software piracy.

I can see MS being just as interested in thin client OS's.



 1:02 pm on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Microsoft alreay has a thin client application that works pretty well - Terminal Server.

I'm not sure everyone will run out and buy Google O/S - look what is happening with Linux. Large companies remain entrenched in Windows products because their IT departments are afraid to make the sift to other products.

The employees of these same companies like to use the same operating system at home as they do in the office.

There are also significant challenges that go along with an O/S. Did you ever look at the hardware compatibility list for a Linux distro and compare it to Windows XP?

Finally, there remains two schools of though on networks. On the one hand, Google might think that they need to organize the world's information. On the other hand, memory is cheap and chips are fast. Why do I need Google to organize my information?

Most of the time my broadband connection sits idle - 99% of the time it grabs information only when I tell it get something. Perhaps in the future, the operating system will analyze what we are looking at each day on our desktops and fetch information when our connections are idle and organize it for us. In that model, I don't need Google at all.


 1:18 pm on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Microsoft is clearly out to take Google down. So there's every incentive for Google to engage in spoiling attacks on Microsoft's cash cows Office and Windows.

OpenOffice.org (Sun's attempt to poison Microsoft) is doing ok, but that kind of app isn't really Google's forte. OO is big and clunky, though - just like Microsoft Office - and there's definitely room for a smaller, cleaner set of Office applications for people who just want to type letters. Some kind of network application might have some success here.

Windows... that's a tougher call. I can't see any reason for Google to join the Novell/Redhat/Debian arena, or start competing with IBM. But they could push Firefox more (features that don't work in IE?) and make sure apps like GoogleEarth were cross-platform. There might also be an opening for specialised systems built on top of Linux - library and information kiosk terminals, maybe?


 2:23 pm on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google will organise your information for itself and others, Google must have access to your information to do this. There is an untapped amount of information sitting on peoples hard drives.


 3:18 pm on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

"The Internet as OS" -- what are we talking about, here?

Why not... USB as OS!

In this context, the Internet is no more an OS than is the cable connecting your keyboard to your PC. The Internet is not anything more magical than that -- just a connector. It has to connect you to SOMETHING, and for the purpose of this discussion, that would have to be some box running some OS.

End users might not have to care what OS that box is running -- but frankly, most people don't know or care even now. They just click on the little picture that says "email" when they want to send email.


 4:35 pm on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

2 gig for an email account was when I started believing.

>>I'm not sure everyone will run out and buy Google O/S

They won't have to; it will be "free" just like IE.


 7:08 pm on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yeah, back to old mainframe days... (one giant computer and terminals connected to it)... That played out well, didn't it?!

Top dogs at IBM must be laughing there arses off on this puppy


 7:20 pm on Sep 6, 2005 (gmt 0)


another one of these fallacies that is fun to read

"the network is a computer"
"the internet is an OS"

I bet these "concepts" only make sence to visionaries. The ONLY thing both Goe Sixpack and Kim Ir Lee can confuse for a computer is their monitor - and they often do.

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