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Win $2mil at roulette--legally!
All you need is a cell phone laser scanner...

 8:51 pm on Dec 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

The club's management suspected they were using a scanner inside a mobile phone which measured the speed of the ball as the croupier released it and calculated where the ball would settle.

From here [guardian.co.uk] and here [timesonline.co.uk].

Plenty of time to cook one up before the next Vegas PubCon!



 2:30 am on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I dunno that sounds a bit far fetched to me.


 3:16 am on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

Not as far-fetched as some of the schemes detailed in about a million books at the Gamblers' Bookstore....


 5:45 am on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

It won't feel very legal if the casino security guys take you out back; for a 'chat'. ;)


 5:59 pm on Dec 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

I read this story when it happened in the Daily telegraph, tell you teh truth Im really surprised that they havent been banged up.

Bet they wont be welcome again..


 1:27 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

I've heard of a story of someone else doing this...although not with a cell phone.

Technically this is considered cheating and you can be prosecuted for it. You are changing the odds of the game...which is illegal.

On this topic...there is a seminar you can take that will teach you how to throw dice to control what numbers come up....a VERY big help in craps. This too is considered cheating and is illegal.

The only legal way to have the odds in your favor in vegas is card counting in black jack. This is not illegal because you are not changing the odds of the game...only betting more when the odds are in you favor. Unfortunately, the casinos frown upon this and can and will throw you out if your caught doing it (although they cannot prosecute you). Check out the book "Bringing Down The House" for a great story on card counting.


 3:52 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Yeah if you card count at Blackjack they'll usually ensure you can't get into ANY other casino's.


 8:41 am on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

Ive read that book, amazing sums of money were made. I do well at the horses ut have to have a large bank to cover me.


 9:42 pm on Dec 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

The casino by me uses 6 decks for blackjack


 2:57 am on Dec 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

EDIT_G, Casinos in Vegas will not beat you up if you are cheating. Casinos in Vegas are runned by large multinational corporations, not the mob.

Instead they will litigate you to death :)


 3:06 am on Dec 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

lgn1 - guess you never read/heard about the Horseshoe and its "security guards" situation....

True though, the casinos are now big business along the lines of bank holding companies rather than mafia families. In many ways, Las Vegas was a cleaner town when I was growing up there - and when the mafia still owned the joint. I babysat for mafia folks. I would NEVER have allowed my daughter to babysit for the people who now run/own Vegas.


 3:12 am on Dec 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

Casinos made a huge mistake when they changed the rules of blackjack to stop card counters (i.e. multiple decks, no surrender, only double on 10 and 11, etc.)

Because card counting can gives the player a positive expectation of winning they thought they would be run out of business by card counters. The truth is, card counting is extremely difficult to do correctly and they could have made MUCH more money because the majority of people wouldn't do it properly. They could have had millions of wannabe card counters trying to beat the system....and nearly all of them would lose.

You can still find a few single deck games in vegas, but most of them only pay 6 to 5 on blackjack and a few other strange rules that tip the odds back in the casinos favor.

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