Lilliabeth

msg:306739 | 12:59 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Oh yeah. My advice is to watch your spending for a while, as redecorating can be expensive. Since she is unlikely to want to do anything to the home that you will absolutely hate, you will, of course, give her whatever she wants. She is worth it and it's important to her. I hope you own sufficient power tools.
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encyclo

msg:306740 | 1:00 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
No doubt about it, you're in trouble! Personally, I would play the spy, but keep the "conversation" going through the subtle messages, depending on what your priorities are. For example: - Open the magazines, check out where the post-it notes are, then move the post-its either to pages with similar, but cheaper, items to those she had chosen, or to pages with something in really horrendous taste (there are always pages like that in all the decoration magazines) - Buy, say, a cycling magazine and put post-its on a page with some outrageously-priced kit - Grab a copy of "La Simplicité volontaire, plus que jamais" by Serge Mongeau, and place a load of post-its in each chapter, and furious highlighting across great swathes of the text...
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trillianjedi

msg:306741 | 1:17 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
lmao Encyclo - you are a true pro. Other options:- 1. Photoshop yourself a doctors certificate detailing your incurable allergies to paint, dust and drill bits. Leave it in a jacket pocket (we all know she'll look). 2. Just buy her a really expensive gift and be done with it. TJ
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sherwoodseo

msg:306742 | 1:21 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Is she your live-in girlfriend? I would start planning your defenses. The best assumption when to make when planning defenses is utter defeat. Therefore, I'd earmark a few precious items that absolutely, positively *must* stay - and then assume the rest will be gone, carted-off to the Pottery Barn Recycling Center. Such items could include: - Favorite chair - Fishing photos, sports posters, anything wall-hanging - Beer bottle, sitting coaster-less on an endtable that's so shot that no one bother with coasters - favorite t-shirts and jerseys (yes, after the apartment, YOU'RE NEXT) Since she already knows you have an emotional attachment to your belongings (e.g. naming your bicycle - great reference!) I'd play that angle. Start telling stories about that fishing trip, or all the people who sat in that chair, or how that Winger t-shirt saved democracy.
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sem4u

msg:306743 | 1:24 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
I'm more worried that you have a name for your bicycle :)
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sherwoodseo

msg:306744 | 1:39 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
and what a name. Don Quichotte's horse, how perfect is that, considering the situation you're in.
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edit_g

msg:306745 | 1:41 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Have you considered that she might be baiting you? She may have left the magazines there deliberately so that you would see them, assume that you would start planning your defence and thereby getting you thinking about interior decoration so much that you'll eventually just cave without her saying a word. Subliminal advertising. Saturday morning, you may just find yourself standing in Ikea, wondering just how the hell you got there.
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encyclo

msg:306746 | 1:42 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Encyclo - you are a true pro |
| No, it's just that I'm married!
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Macguru

msg:306747 | 2:14 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Lilliabeth | Since she is unlikely to want to do anything to the home that you will absolutely hate, you will, of course, give her whatever she wants. She is worth it and it's important to her. |
| Good display of solidarity, Lilliabeth. | I hope you own sufficient power tools. |
| Yeah, that is the second fold of the problem. I am a handy man. I will be "naturally" assigned to it. encyclo then move the post-its either to pages... Buy, say, a cycling magazine... Grab a copy of "La Simplicité volontaire, plus que jamais"... No, it's just that I'm married! |
| encyclo, you are a very professional husband. trillianjedi | Encyclo - you are a true pro. |
| I fully agree! This can be a lot of fun. Plus, it will prolong negociations. | Just buy her a really expensive gift and be done with it. |
| So she ends up with both the expensive gift and the interior redocorations extravaganza, trillianjedi? sherwoodseo | Is she your live-in girlfriend? I would start planning your defenses. |
| Yes, with her 2 teenaged daughters. This maybe a plot. :) | emotional attachment to your belongings (e.g. naming your bicycle - great reference!) I'd play that angle. |
| Almost all of my belongings are intrenched in the garage already. They already invaded the rest of the house, exept my wokshop in the basement. I called it Alamo. :) sem4u | I'm more worried that you have a name for your bicycle |
| sherwoodseo | and what a name. Don Quichotte's horse |
| It's all Troels's fault. [webmasterworld.com...] edit_g | Have you considered that she might be baiting you? |
| There is no doubt about it. The question here is how and when to bite at it. So far, encyclo seems to have the best approach at it. He is a higly qualified husband. :)
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pmac

msg:306748 | 2:37 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Your life, as you once knew it, is over.
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hannamyluv

msg:306749 | 2:38 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
I think your only course of action will be to head this off at the pass. You will not win, but you will have a better chance at compromise if you lay your claim early in the game. My husband and I did this when we bought our house. He got the basement to do with whatever he liked in his manly bad taste, I got the rest of the house. Seems a bit lopsided, granted, but how many women would let a man decorate any part of their house by painting a 5'x10' mural from his favorite obscure comic book, Star Trek Xmas lights, two ratty, but (he insists) comfortable recliners, plus about a half dozen other things that make me cringe. Define your space now, before she defines it for you.
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encyclo

msg:306750 | 2:39 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Almost all of my belongings are intrenched in the garage already. They already invaded the rest of the house, exept my wokshop in the basement. I called it Alamo. :) |
| Ah, the warning sirens are really sounding with that comment, along with the fact that your girlfriend doesn't use the garage in the summer. She could be building up to a garage or basement conversion. To arms, comrade, and defend your territory from the marauding invaders!
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trillianjedi

msg:306751 | 2:49 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| No, it's just that I'm married! |
| And the difference is? | So she ends up with both the expensive gift and the interior redocorations extravaganza |
| Not if you spend all your money on the expensive gift (and borrow more also while you're about it). Heck, it may bankrupt you, but at least you won't have to buy a tool belt. TJ Or maybe you secretly want a toolbelt?
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mivox

msg:306752 | 7:10 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Play dumb until she brings those mags in bed |
| That would be my vote. Then just tell her not to touch the garage or basement, and leave her to it.
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iamlost

msg:306753 | 8:20 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
The windmills really are closing in on you and Rossinante. | Almost all of my belongings are intrenched in the garage already. They already invaded the rest of the house, exept my wokshop in the basement. I called it Alamo. :) |
| One: you appear to be in denial ... Two: you have already lost the living space ... Three: so ... is she likely to redecorate the garage and/or basement? Four: Your knowledge of history ... is it accurate? Shall we remember you fondly each year gradually enhancing the mythos of Macguru going down swinging his hammer under an onslaught of pink and lace? Five: Ah poor Macguru I knew him when ... Six: It was hopeless you know ... one woman ... two teenage daughters ... a man in love ... think of the anguish of knowing the pod people are making you over in their image ... sob ... sob ...
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roscoepico

msg:306754 | 9:17 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Pick one item from the magazine and buy it. Don't mention that you saw the magazine. You will seem like a genius and get extra lovin' that night.
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pmac

msg:306755 | 11:56 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0) |
I think your GF is lonely. If you mabe spent more time promoting your sites like a traditional spammer instead of going to extremes [sympatico.msn.cbc.ca], your GF would not be so inclined to be distracted by pastimes such as decorating. Nice skirt btw. :)
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Robert Charlton

msg:306756 | 4:47 am on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
I'll bet she's jealous of Rossinante. A very lilting name....
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Skylo

msg:306757 | 6:52 am on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
If i were you, there would be a Macguru shaped hole in the door ;-)
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lawman

msg:306758 | 10:28 am on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
It took me 9 years, but I now have a definitive answer to "what is the difference between a wife and a girlfriend?" In 1995, I decided I wanted to buy a Harley. Exact conversation follows: Me: I think I'm gonna buy a Harley. We can get some leathers and hang out with the weekend bikers at Cabo Wabo (in Sandy Springs, GA). What do you think? Girlfriend*: Sure, sounds good. Before I bought the bike, girlfriend became pregnant. I had no insurance to cover pregnancy and had to pay out of my own pocket. I forgot about the Harley. Fast forward 9 years. Was talking to my neighbor across the street who has a Harley. He got me fired up about getting a bike. Went inside to talk to wife. The exact conversation follows: Me: I was just talking to Lloyd . . . Wife*: You're not getting a motorcycle. *Girlfriend and Wife are one and the same.
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sem4u

msg:306759 | 12:27 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
Sounds like you are spot on lawman. I have learnt so much from this thread :)
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lgn1

msg:306760 | 12:32 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
MacGuru, its when your girlfriend brings home bridal magazine's, that you really need to start worrying :)
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encyclo

msg:306761 | 12:40 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
OK, it's 8.30am, so Macguru should be at work again. So, we are all waiting with baited breath - what happened this morning? Fabric samples left carelessly lying about? The TV showing an "accidentally-recorded" program about decoration (you know, she presses play and says "oh no, I wanted to record the Olympic three-man synchronised water-polo event, but hey this program's quite interesting anyway!") Did you try any of the delaying tactics, or have you already signed away your soul to Ikea?
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Macguru

msg:306762 | 2:45 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
iamlost | One: you appear to be in denial ... |
| [6]NO![/6] encyclo | OK, it's 8.30am, so Macguru should be at work again. |
| I get to work late after a rough night... When I got back home yesterday night, I planned to play the spy and have a look at those mags. They where no longuer in the car. I entered "my" invaded home, she was reading them in the living room. She had a notepad with sketches (she is a GFX designer) and notes. After a quick dinner and a shower, I decided to play straight and confront my destiny. She liked the way I opened negociations. Macguru - Before you parked you car in my garage with those mags on the driver's seat, how many hints did I miss about your project? Her - (counting on her fingers with an evil smile) This year? Macguru - So now it's time for my briefing, right? Ok, I am listening. I learned she would pay for everything, but had no idea on how much it's going to cost. Another good thing is her project(s) are reasonable and will look very good at the end. The main part is the washroom. It was renovated during the 70' and has one of those uncomfortable square baths. I have to strip everything, enlarge the room 6' wider, put a larger window and rebuild it. She has 3 sketches for the bathroom, all with terra cotta tiles and an 'antique' white claw foot bathtub. Some walls will be in knotty pine and others in terra cotta. I like it. The best part is she is not in a hurry, she wants to start next spring. So, I capitulated in those terms. Overall, I think I'm lucky. I am still in doubt about one thing. Could it be only, phase 1?
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chrisnrae

msg:306763 | 3:11 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
"I learned she would pay for everything" um, you should rephrase that too DAMN lucky! ;)
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encyclo

msg:306764 | 3:24 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| I learned she would pay for everything |
| Cool! Of course, as the old saying goes, time is money. What's your hourly rate for the renovation work again? ;) Actually, it seems that you're a pretty good negociator - it's only the bathroom (for the moment - as you say, this is surely only Phase 1), and she's picking up the tab. You agreed unconditionally to all her demands, of course, but that's how the dynamics work in a couple!
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Macguru

msg:306765 | 3:51 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Actually, it seems that you're a pretty good negociator |
| I didn't have to negociate much, really. She had a pretty good package in hand. I saw no reason to negociate except for the dead line. She admits we need a little more planning before we start and also understands it's better to enlarge a window when it's not minus 30 outside. Now I have to make sure I get a year break before Phase II. :)
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Shane

msg:306766 | 5:02 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
| Now I have to make sure I get a year break before Phase II. |
| ..... too late macguru, toooooo late, ha ha haaaaaa ..... ..... Shane
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Macguru

msg:306767 | 5:15 pm on Aug 18, 2004 (gmt 0) |
pmac Thanks pmac, I will return it to you soon. Shane | toooooo late, ha ha haaaaaa ..... |
| I get this strange feeling you are right. Is there some kind of trigger womens in early 30, to just do start doing that, or age has nothing to do with it?
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