| 5:01 pm on Apr 30, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Do you think they will try to make it compatible with Safari?
| 5:09 pm on Apr 30, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Sure! Every edge the can establish over MS; they should take advantage of. I would...
| 3:09 am on May 1, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Might not be too hard for them to whip up their own [heavily branded] linux distro..."Googlinux"? "Blue-red-yellow-green-hat/dog Linux"? "Googlows"? "OS 10^100"?
| 5:11 am on May 1, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I think they will. Since so many people think they will, there's obviously many people emailing them in reqest of creating an operating system. The operating system, however, would probably not be too compatable with things. Most games are for Windows, as are many large applications. Linux programs are more programmer-y, and Google's OS would probably therefore be just for webmasters.
| 3:08 am on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)|
They've got to spend all that IPO money on something. :)
| 11:07 am on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)|
The google OS will be a throwback to the early days of computers, where it was thought there would be one huge central computer which would be accessed by dispersed terminals.
Imagine a PC that would allow you to log into your "account" from any browser. There, your hoarde of files, email, software, photos and whatever else you decided to contribute would be waiting for you to work with, to do whatever it is you do with your data. Built on a Kazaa-type every client is a server data distribution, you might be able to commit a certain amount of hard drive on your own system that would give you roaming storage on other systems, you could have massive amounts of data available to you from anywhere in the world, and no one could stop you from accessing your data through a secure channel, and when you closed your session, you would no longer have that data on your person and it would all be securely stored away from your person.
I don't think it's an issue of will it happen, just a matter of when. I think google is in the best position to take advantage, to be there for the transition. M$ is becomming a juggernaut and will grow more sluggish over time as a victim of its own entrenched code distribution. Google has no such weights holding it back.
The implementation of the internet in other countries, particularly in asia, is quite a bit difference than what we americans experience, where most of us have PCs in our offices and homes. In China and other nearby countries, most people don't have their own PCs and so there are many internet-type cafes where people can access the internet. Already, many, many people in these countries store large amounts of information online and access it and manipulate it in an online environment. Some governments, like China, which seems to like to play an active role in monitoring content accessed by its citizens, may largely be responsible for this implementation or it could simply be passed off as a culteral heritage. I dont know. What I do know is that this has been coming for some time now and google is about to make off with the basket, the baby and the fried chicken. Don't think it's some surprise and remember where you heard it first.
| 6:20 pm on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I think that I just thought of it before hearing any ideas about it. However the first I've heard of your particular idea, Neuron. I feel that it will take a bit longer than the time between now and when Google releases their OS when your idea will come into play. I feel that it will be atleast five years.
I feel that your idea is pretty much only a feasable one to become popular when we have internet connections that are way more than this puny 400kbps-1mb avg internet I'm on now. Whereas we could be able to run Photoshop from a different country, with it being as fast to use anywhere, as in our own home.
|troels nybo nielsen|
| 10:21 pm on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)|
A Google OS?
Sure. They might create a new division (or buy an existing company) to make their own version of Linux. Or some of the employees might get together and spend their 20% time on the project.
A slim, fast Linux. (Remember all those old, slow computers out there with small harddrives and too little RAM.) And of course the possibility of easily building more advanced features into it.
And Gmail and the Google toolbar. And Google search on your own computer....
I doubt that Microsoft would like the idea.
| 10:33 pm on May 2, 2004 (gmt 0)|
>>I doubt that Microsoft would like the idea.
I would be one of the very rare feeling I would share along with them.
| 12:02 pm on May 4, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I seriously doubt that Google will enter the OS market. However, if they do, it will be something like a linux rebrand rather than something new. Linoogle.
If ever, to for some years.
| 8:13 pm on May 5, 2004 (gmt 0)|
A Google instant messenger would be nice for the time being :)
| 4:55 am on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I agree that it would be a derivision of Linux. As everyone at Google uses Linux on their computers and therefore would be most comfortable with that operating system. Hey, why build an operating system that you wouldn't really like?
| 6:44 pm on May 6, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|Don't think it's some surprise and remember where you heard it first. |
C'mon, neuron -- the web-as-platform and Google OS talk has been going around for quite some time. Battelle's been chatting it up for quite a while. Richard Skrenta published a great piece on it a month or two ago, and Kottke has posted on it, too.
It's great stuff, and anyone interested in learning more about it may want to know that a "Web 2.0" conference is being planned for further discussion.
| 12:54 pm on May 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|I doubt that Microsoft would like the idea. |
And this is a concern because........?
|troels nybo nielsen|
| 3:15 pm on May 8, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Dunno. My own concerns have very little in common with those of Microsoft. :)
| 12:23 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)|
One major advantage of Google setting up a web-native OS is that nobody would have to download security patches to their OS account - I assume they would be automatically deployed.
However, any crack in the system and a virus could exploit the fact that the OS is remotely accessed and infect millions of host machines as soon as they logged in to the system.
Also, in commercial terms, individual OS subscribers would have far less say in what they actually had active on their operating system or not - since the OS itself doesn't reside on the user's terminal.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Who watches the watchmen?
If Google were to protect its users from scumware, virii, spyware etc.... who would protect those users from Google?
| 2:28 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)|
I don't know about this central computing idea. I'm sure it's possible just like high speed rail is possible. Not everyone would want to use it.
Besides, operating systems are often used for functions that don't require a connection. Why pay for the bandwidth to use a calculator that's half way around the world?
| 8:33 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)|
>>I seriously doubt that Google will enter the OS market. However, if they do, it will be something like a linux rebrand rather than something new. Linoogle.
How about "Googlings" or "Googlinx" or "G-line"
| 11:39 am on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Google XP ;)
..or maybe Googlux.
But if Google launches an OS, I'd prefer it to be its original one - rather than a version of Linux (don't we have too many of those?).
Maybe even a one which supports files supported by Windows (.exe, .dll etc.), or has MS even copyrighted those?
Anyway, a faste-r,stable-r and bette-r version of Windows would be great :)
But I personally have a feeling Google will go alongside Mac.
| 2:46 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|But if Google launches an OS, I'd prefer it to be its original one - rather than a version of Linux (don't we have too many of those?). |
But you know that there's probably a higher chance of them just making a deriviation from Linux; they use them themselves, they're familiar with the system, and evidently like it.
I like Windows; it's a good operating system, and personally consider it the best one for me; Macintosh's operating system isn't as customizable, Linux is too customizable, and both take too much effort for me. I'm lazy, and therefore choose the one that requires the least work to do what I want with it.
I just don't like the errors, which aren't rampid in ME like they were in 98 SE, or in 95. Those ones would have to have a fresh install of everything every 2-3 months. I've been running for a good 9 months--no re-install, or anything. Though I guess that my rampid virus-installing brother doesn't live here anymore, so that might have been the problem.
| 4:10 pm on May 10, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Give me a time-frame and you've got yourself a bet.
| 4:54 pm on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)|
>>Imagine a PC that would allow you to log into your "account" from any browser. There, your hoarde of files, email, software, photos and whatever else you decided to contribute would be waiting for you to work with, to do whatever it is you do with your data.<<
This sounds like a clipping from a speech given by Larry Ellison, wasn't this Oracles vision of the future of computing? Come to think of it Bill Gates gave a speech at Comdex around 96 or 97 that contained similiar concepts..
IMHO, people like to have their "stuff" tucked neatly away in their own computer, the general public is too scared of hackers and the like to trust keeping all their family pictures and whatnot on some server who knows where.
The point made about China and other places where individual PC ownership is lower is a valid one, but for how long, seems to me that as incomes rise and PC prices fall, more and more people worldwide will want to be able to keep their "stuff" close at hand.
A Google os? Why bother, unless it runs Windows apps it will never get any more market share than Corel Linux or BE OS or OS2 etc etc, now if it could legally run Windows apps, then we might have a real horse race on our hands....
| 4:58 pm on May 12, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|Imagine a PC that would allow you to log into your "account" from any browser. There, your hoarde of files, email, software, photos and whatever else you decided to contribute would be waiting for you to work with, to do whatever it is you do with your data. |
If you have a high speed always on connection at home, this is already pretty standard. I can VNC into my home box any time I like, my desktop is displayed within the browser window and I have full access to the box.
I use remote admin on my local network because it is of higher quality, but VNC allows you to connect via any browser, whereas remote admin requires a client on the local machine.
| 2:59 pm on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)|
| 3:46 pm on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)|
|Give me a time-frame and you've got yourself a bet. |
after the SES conference in Toronto; it seems Google has a few things to worry about before venturing into the OS world
GOS - I like it!If there was a name, I'd like it to be that, or maybe GOSS!
| 4:13 pm on May 13, 2004 (gmt 0)|
Guys, you can't just whip up an operating system and expect it to be successful based on your brand. Why is there no SonyOS, or gaming enhanced EA-OS?
What, will it just happen to be fully microsoft compatible? Or do you really feel there is no need for software?
To be a niche OS success you have to pander to a market, and do it well, like BEOS. Search is not a market, it's a portal to markets.
You think Google is going to announce its intentions of going into the OS business just after SES in Toronto? Now we'll have to go to sticky mail, because I'd bet the farm on that one.
| 5:56 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)|
mm.. how about GhOSt :)
| 6:44 pm on May 27, 2004 (gmt 0)|
did I win my bet?