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|Just got fired|
| 2:04 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I am so psyched. I've never been fired before. I freaking hated that job.
So I packed up my stuff (I'd already cleaned out my desk because they'd asked me to quit and I'd said no, so I figured a firing couldn't be far off) and went home and had cheap Chinese takeout and beer and watched Office Space with my boyfriend.
So I've just finished the movie, and have done the happy dance around my apartment, and have put my jammies on and put up the Christmas lights...
What next? I figured I'd share my joy with y'all, and fish for suggestions.
I was planning on quitting soon to go freelance full-time. So... I gotta get my website lookin' sharp... I suppose I should get my networking on... Perhaps I'll start researching markets and so on. (Thinking of doing some fiction writing too. Might's well try.)
But mostly, I just wanted to say, Ha ha! I got fired! I never have to see those blue-gray-green cubicle walls under those flickering fluorescent lights again! I don't ever have to go back to that soul-destroying place! Hallelujah!
| 3:38 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Sounds like you've got a great attitude about the whole thing, so here's to the start of something wonderful! <raising a virtual beer>
7 years ago I was in a similar situation - planning to go freelance and was "nudged" by a lay-off - it was one of the best things that ever happened to me.
| 8:15 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|I am so psyched. I've never been fired before. I freaking hated that job. |
I literally laughed when I read that. It was such a blatant lie. Defending truth is one thing, defending our pride is another.
|troels nybo nielsen|
| 8:20 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Good attitude, dragonlady. The real important thing is not what comes to you from "outside" factors but how you react to them. I only hope that your economy does not worry you.
| 8:44 am on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
If you quit, you couldn't draw unemployment. :)
| 12:58 pm on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Obviously I have spared this forum most of my whining about this job. But there are some gems, buried in Foo and oh yes-- in the CSS forum. They wanted me to do some really improbable things with CSS. Morons.
No, I really hated this job. Really, really, really. The coworkers weren't bad, and they got me to learn SEO, but the boss was unstable and verbally abusive and... Well, i don't think I'll talk about that job anymore, because I don't need to. Suffice to say, I'm not averse to bending the truth if it makes a better story that way, but this isn't one of those times.
Exactly. They asked me to quit and I said I'd think it over. I went right to a certain search engine and looked up unemployment law for new york state, and said... Aha, I will not be quitting this job. I hadn't realized quitting would save them money on their unemployment taxes.
I don't like to be grasping, but they SAID it was their fault it wasn't working out, so why should I have to take responsibility-- legal and financial-- for the termination? No... They tried to lay a guilt trip on me for making them fire me, but then they offered me token severance pay, which they by policy never do. I don't think that's my guilt on display, there.
But, I said I wasn't talking about the job anymore. No... I'm talking about how awesome things are going to be. I have the bonus of having figured out about six months ago that this job was not for me, so I haven't spent any more money than the bare minimum since then. (Though I've still given them more of myself than they deser... OK, I'm not talking about the job.) And I have a wonderfully supportive, super-genius boyfriend whose employers recognize that he's a super-genius and so pay very well. So if worst comes to worst, he'll be far more forgiving about my share of the rent than any landlord would be. :)
So much of the terror and bite of being suddenly independent are allayed by these factors.
It's time to really get going on this full-time freelancing thing. I've been delaying too many things for too long. I haven't been this excited about a life change in a while now. I definitely feel like I've escaped something very unpleasant.
The woman who shared my cubicle had been working for the company for four years. She'd written her resignation letter three and a half years earlier, and had updated it every month or so since then. She'd also gained 150 pounds, and a number of associated health problems, in those four years. But she could never quite bring herself to leave the job, even after a week in which she worked both Saturday and Sunday (UNPAID) but they docked her for missing Wednesday afternoon when her daughter had to go to the emergency room.
I guess some people don't mind that kind of life. But I do.
|troels nybo nielsen|
| 1:37 pm on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
You've dropped a heavy burden from your shoulders. Now go ahead and unfold your wings! :)
| 3:07 pm on Dec 13, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I've been "RIFed" (Reduction In Force) several times in my life, but "unfortunately" I've been fairly employable and found other jobs relativley quickly. I'd love to make that jump to independence, but don't have a sense of urgency about it since I'm in a good job with good people. Therefore I've not had the impetus to put a lot of thought or time into a plan to get me there.
This place has definitely kept those thoughts in my conscious mind, however, and I'm far more likely to get started down that road becasue of that. I'd still prefer to "jump" rather than be "pushed", and your tale is another inspiration for me.
Best of luck to you!
And welcome back! Seems like it's been a long time since we've last seen you post here.
| 9:02 am on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|She'd also gained 150 pounds |
Unless you worked at a fast food restaurant, I don't see why/how she would gain weight by having a "crummy job".
| 4:25 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Panic - lighten up!
Good luck with your new endeavors dragonlady!
My current business partner worked as a developer for a large Internet company a few years back. He was ready to go so he decided to see if he could get canned. It is amazing, how hard it is to get fired some places!
Anyone evr see the Seinfeld where George tries to get fired? Pretty funny stuff.
| 6:16 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Or the one where they try to fire him but he won't leave. :)
| 8:21 pm on Dec 14, 2003 (gmt 0)|
For a lot of people, eating is their response when they're under stress. I watched her start a diet, get a new project dumped on her that she couldn't handle, and just start eating. She'd have a Twix bar here, then three Diet Cokes, then a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, then...
Because she was sitting there, staring at this screen, being shrieked at to do something she didn't know how to do, and out of nervousness and tension she'd just keep craving sweets. I'm not sure of the reasons behind it, but if you look around at the overweight people around you, most of them don't work in a fast food restaurant. Most of them sit behind a computer and get shrieked at all day.
>try to get fired
I didn't try to get fired, because I figured that wouldn't be right. Which is silly; I shouldn't have wasted so much worry towards the end on doing "the right thing", but I couldn't afford to just walk out either.
I am indeed planning to spread my wings. It'll be an adventure, whether it goes well or poorly. Thanks for your support, everybody. :D
And I'm looking at the huge snowstorm dumping on most of the state today, and thinking how glad I am that I don't have to worry about going anywhere tomorrow!
| 7:35 am on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Good luck, Dragonlady.
I don't know about NY, but we've got some great educational programs for people who get laid off. If you're interested, you might check your local college and see what they've got. I already have a degree, but taking a morning class every quarter has given me a reason not to loaf (I lapsed into sleeping until noon early on in the self-employed process, heh), and I've picked up some stuff I can use on my site, too. =)
| 9:19 am on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|The coworkers weren't bad, and they got me to learn SEO, but the boss was unstable and verbally abusive and... |
I wonder if you and I worked at the same place. My old job was *exactly* like that.
|and went home and had cheap Chinese takeout and beer and watched Office Space with my boyfriend |
That is the *best* movie about office politics.
PS I laughed when I read the 'YEEEEHAW!'
| 11:46 am on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
What a brilliant attitude. I wish you all the best in finding a good job that you enjoy.
Funnily enough, guess who's just handed in their resignation? Me
| 1:45 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Wow, best of luck, Chris!
grnidone-- I shudder to think that there might be another one of my boss out there somewhere. Brr. The C.O.O., while firing me, asked what my plans were, and I said I will most definitely not be looking for a job like this one. he asked why, and I said just on the off-chance that I encounter another boss like the CEO of this company. He said it was unlikely, and I said it wasn't worth taking the chance.
I stand by that. I never again want to see a grown man in his fifties, CEO of an established company, jumping up and down screeching "I WANNA DO IT MY WAY! I NEVER GET MY WAY! YOU NEVER DO THINGS MY WAY!"
It was really scary.
First, I have to figure out how to apply for unemployment, and second I have to figure out what to do about my health insurance. I have several complications-- 1) don't have a car, 2) am leaving for christmas vacation in 4 days, 3) am still technically on the payroll at my old company for two weeks and thus don't know whether I'm eligible for unemployment yet. So I'm really confused and am going to have to sort it out somehow.
But I have all kinds of ideas for how to get freelance work. Also, several projects lined up already. (I've learned already not to count on those, however. I had three projects lined up for the last week of November and none of them actually came through. So I'm definitely going to have to institute a procedure for making sure of these things. Over Xmas I have a meeting with a lawyer-friend to draw up my standard contract.)
Sigh. But first, I've budgeted another half hour for Foo. ;) I haven't been around here much, it's true.
| 3:12 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|I literally laughed when I read that. It was such a blatant lie. Defending truth is one thing, defending our pride is another. |
I would loved to have been fired from my current position. (It's over in five days anyway, so hurray!)
Why not quit? If I had quit, it would have made me look bad, and could theoretically have ruined future prospects.
There are plenty of other reasons someone might stay in a job they hate- good money being the biggest one. A firing can be a ticket to freedom.
| 3:48 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Good luck, whatever ya choose to do, dragonlady7.
| 5:26 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|For a lot of people, eating is their response when they're under stress. I watched her start a diet, get a new project dumped on her that she couldn't handle, and just start eating. She'd have a Twix bar here, then three Diet Cokes, then a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup, then... |
Rather spending her time eating, she could've been doing her work. And maybe if she was doing her work, she probably wouldn't have gotten fired.
|PS I laughed when I read the 'YEEEEHAW!' |
That was a bit overboard, don't you think?
|Why not quit? If I had quit, it would have made me look bad, and could theoretically have ruined future prospects. |
|There are plenty of other reasons someone might stay in a job they hate- good money being the biggest one. A firing can be a ticket to freedom. |
Yeah... being fired doesn't look NEARLY as bad as walking out.
| 5:44 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
My,my,my... aren't we filled with the holiday spirit.
| 5:47 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|My,my,my... aren't we filled with the holiday spirit. |
That, we are :)
| 6:41 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|Rather spending her time eating, she could've been doing her work. And maybe if she was doing her work, she probably wouldn't have gotten fired. |
They didn't get fired, they still work there. You're wrong, besides your presumptions, to the point of appearing antagonistic.
|That was a bit overboard, don't you think? |
Seemed appropriately contextual to me. Since you asked.
Good luck Dragonlady7.
| 7:29 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Dragonlady7, I understand your emotions here - clearly, you thought the right thing to do was leave that position, but didn't do so for the same reasons many people don't - inertia, money, etc. (I wouldn't always dismiss all those reasons as irrelevant; a sudden drop in income can be unpleasant, too.) While nobody likes to be fired, this action resolved your internal conflict, in essence forcing you to do what you knew was right. If you quit, you'd be second-guessing yourself for weeks, particularly if finances got tight; having been sacked, you are free of guilt. :)
Good luck in your search for a new position. You seem to be well grounded, and will no doubt come up with something that turns your recent job into a dim but unpleasant memory.
| 8:03 pm on Dec 15, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Ah, I've been in exactly this place -- and that was when I started my own business. It was a two edged sword, but I had known that the job was "wrong" for a long time and I definitely celebrated while I worried about future income.
When I was downsized out of my last job, I felt exactly what rogerd describes...and I also lost over 50 pounds since then quite naturally (for those who know me, yes, I know I have more to lose! See you in Florida)
For me, the transition to self-employed was a major step in growth and happiness.
My advice would be to pick a direction that uses more than one of your skills, and in fact, see if you can find a way to generate parallel income streams. When you're self employed, a single income stream can be a bumpy ride I discovered.
Also, don't over-plan. Just get started with what makes sense right now, and see where things go. When you're doing something you love, amazing results come more easily if you stay open to them.
| 12:00 am on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I've always wanted to quit a job like my man Scarface off the movie Half Baked. Only problem is I've had my job for 5 years and don't plan on going anywhere.
hmmm...maybe I'll go get hired at one of the local burger joints just so I can do it once. :)
| 12:22 am on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I once sent my boss a silver platter of horse poo. I think it cost like $15 but was worth every penny.
No amount of money is worth your unhappiness or your sanity. Good Luck DragonLady.
*G pops Office Space into the DVD player*
| 1:31 am on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
<<Rather spending her time eating, she could've been doing her work. And maybe if she was doing her work, she probably wouldn't have gotten fired. >>
How to win friends and influence people by Panic :)
Quitting, getting fired, company buring down, whatever - you wil be sooo happy working on your own. Also, the income potemtial is unlimited!
There are many failurs who will try to bring you down, warning of EVERY possible pitfall of owning your own business. Mostly, they wind up asking for jobs or to borrow money later...
| 4:31 am on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
|How to win friends and influence people by Panic :) |
Sorry... I don't want to be friends with people that don't work.
| 5:25 am on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
Let's stay on topic please.
| 1:23 pm on Dec 16, 2003 (gmt 0)|
I am happy to see that you are being a really positive about this.
My freind was recently made redundant (with quite a large payoff :) ) - The move did not supress her motivation so she picked up the phone and was hired by another company within a month for a better salary ;)
You never know what is round the corner, and like many here, I think there is a little bit of entrepreneur in you so I am sure you will do well.
The trick is to stay positive and continually look to challenge yourself.
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