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pendanticist




msg:321757
 7:27 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Federal officials are looking for at least 30 vials that may contain the plague and are missing from Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center.

[cnn.com...]

The President has been briefed.

Pendanticist.

 

mivox




msg:321758
 7:33 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Luckily, bubonic plague isn't automatically fatal these days... if it's caught, it can be treated with standard antibiotics.

idiotgirl




msg:321759
 7:39 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I've lost socks, change, and my car keys - but never 30 bottles of the plague. You don't "lose" deadly viruses, obviously. They were sold, sneaked, traded, or whatever for compensation of some sort to some body.

Another plague outbreak? I'm sure there's no connection. Isn't that what they said about the first few anthrax cases?

I just love how these morsels of information are fed to the public. "Nothing to see here, folks. Just move along."

mivox




msg:321760
 7:42 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

but never 30 bottles of the plague. You don't "lose" deadly viruses

Have you ever spent a significant amount of time in a university science department? Hehehe.... similar things have probably happened in the past, but before 9-11 they wouldn't have made the news.

I can see it now... student working in lab knocks over rack of vials. "Oh #&^%$#. Prof. So-and-So will KILL me..." Mops up mess, disposes of remaining 'evidence' where it won't ever be found.

agerhart




msg:321761
 7:46 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I can see it now... student working in lab knocks over rack of vials.

Because people are oh-so-honest. I would put my money on the fact that it was sold, stolen, etc.

Mike_Mackin




msg:321762
 7:51 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

FOX News
Everything has been accounted for!
No danger to public health.

mivox




msg:321763
 7:54 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

So it is posible to 'misplace' a couple dozen vials of deadly virus? (The update hasn't appeared on their website yet...)

Mike_Mackin




msg:321764
 7:56 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

FBI said that the investigation was to continue....

The University said that it was not bubonic plague but the STUFF could cause bubonic plague :(

pendanticist




msg:321765
 7:58 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Yeah it does mivox.

"Missing vials in Texas that contained bubonic plague cultures are accounted for and there is no threat to public safety, authorities say. Details soon."

It's located in the red header across the top of the link.

Pendanticist.

mivox




msg:321766
 8:02 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

It's the "details" I was looking to find tho. I wasn't particularly panicked in the first place, so "FBI: Plague Samples Found" (foxnews.com) is a little less info than I was hoping for. At least CNN gives a full sentence. ;)

Of course, who's to say we're ever going to hear any significant amount of detail?

Mike_Mackin




msg:321767
 8:09 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

The most infamous plague outbreak, Europe's Black Death, started in 1347, killing 25 million people in Europe and 13 million in the Middle East and China within five years.

digitalghost




msg:321768
 8:15 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Luckily, bubonic plague isn't automatically fatal these days

Just for conspiracy fun: Yeah, sure, as long as it is not some suped up Military variety of Bubonic Plague. Who is to say that a breakout of plague today wouldn't mutate and defy those "standard" antibiotics, many of which are suffering from decreasing efficacy anyway...

Besides, it's not the bottles they find, or the ones they find missing that you have to worry about, it's those bottles of plague that are missing that sloppy inventory controls will never reveal...

Just my happy thoughts for the day. ;)

mivox




msg:321769
 8:20 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Tellingly, the Black Plague occurred, before the advancement of such wizardry as microbiology and antibiotic therapy.

Most people in the US don't live in rat-infested hovels anymore, which probably really reduces likely transmission vectors. The biggest hazard these days would be people and their doctors not realising what it was in time to prescribe antibiotics.

About 14 percent of plague cases in the United States are fatal...

The symptoms are swollen, tender lymph nodes, fever, and extreme exhaustion. Ten to 20 people a year are infected in rural areas of the western United States, while globally there are 1,000 to 3,000 cases a year.

It can be treated with antibiotics, but if it isn't treated promptly, it can cause death.


(emphasis mine)

<added>
Yeah, sure, as long as it is not some suped up Military variety of Bubonic Plague.

Which, according to the articles on cnn and fox, it wasn't.

And besides, biological warfare is against the rules nowadays, so we would certainly never fund military programs to develop such illegal substances in the first place... ;)
</added>

lawman




msg:321770
 9:10 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

The President has been briefed.

Sometimes Cheney, Powell and the other tricksters de-brief the president.

lawman

digitalghost




msg:321771
 9:16 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Which, according to the articles on cnn and fox, it wasn't.

Hmm, and I know that those news sources would indeed tell the whole world that some nasty new strain of plague had been stolen or lost... :)

>>And besides, biological warfare is against the rules nowadays, so we would certainly never fund military programs to develop such illegal substances in the first place...

Of course, I agree totally. Does your tongue ache from being so firmly stuck in your cheek? ;)

rogerd




msg:321772
 9:16 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm sure being "de-briefed" by Monica L. was more pleasant. ;)

mivox




msg:321773
 9:49 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

DG! I'm shocked! Are you implying that our national media and/or government would ever consider telling half-truths, engaging in subterfuge, or committing outright dishonesty when dealing with the general public? Perish the thought.

digitalghost




msg:321774
 10:00 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

>>Are you implying

Never would I,

The media and the government are virtual paragons of veracity, imbued with a sense of duty and truthfulness that outshines all but the brightest stars of the saints. Indeed, they would never prevaricate nor cavil nor equivocate nor tergiversate, but remain unyielding, unwavering in their pursuit of rectitude and fidelity.

Yep...

lawman




msg:321775
 10:01 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Wow DG, did you memorize the OED in your spare time? :)

lawman

digitalghost




msg:321776
 10:06 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Nope, but I get a Word of the Day calendar every year for my birthday. ;)

jaybee




msg:321777
 10:23 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

FBI said that the investigation was to continue....

Maybe the FBI may make it mandatory in the future for these incidents to be reported to them.

It would save time, investigation, and $$$$$, not to mention news they would not like being leaked.

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