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Brett_Tabke




msg:323703
 12:23 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

What are the sleaziest businesses you deal with on the web?

Mine would be:

- domain registrars.
14 transfer requests and the domain is still park at Net (it's no accident their name ends in SOL).
- long distance phone companies.
I'll use two tin cans and a string before I use some of those companies again.
- credit card processors.
Charge back - I got your charge back right here ;-)
- cell phone companies.
Two dozen crack NASA rocket scientists recently studied the top cell phone plans. They couldn't figure them out either.

 

creative craig




msg:323704
 12:26 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Internet service providers and their TOS ;)

opps I work for one :)

Craig

yokelrobin




msg:323705
 12:29 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'd go with domain registration companies as well - I think I'm nearing a dozen transfer requests for one domain. Also kept getting bills for several other domains after completely transferring them away.

jackofalltrades




msg:323706
 12:32 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Not a business type in particular, but I really cant stand unprofessional practices.

Mostly large companies that will happily spend millions on marketing then nothing on service support.

Content theft really annoys me.

Unoriginality to a lesser extent as well.

Property rental agencies that try to rip off students are on the list as well.

In fact, I have a fairly large list, so Ill stop now.... ;)

JOAT

ukgimp




msg:323707
 12:44 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Cell Phone scumbags and

Automated systems:

If you would like to talk to someone who is really freindly but could not organise a pi## up in a brewery press 1. If you would like to be put on indefinite hold until you lose your rag and smash the phone in bits (i did that once :)) press 2.

etc etc

chiyo




msg:323708
 12:57 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

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edit_g




msg:323709
 1:48 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Domain registrars-
I'm pretty sure that some of them have daily meetings with "how hard can we make this simple task and how much can we overcharge" on the agenda...

Markus




msg:323710
 2:11 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Not a specific business, just any "we will achieve a positive EBITDA by the fourth quarter 200X when our restructuring measures take effect" publicly-held internet companies. Replace X with 0, 1, 2, 3,...

Liane




msg:323711
 2:14 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

The sleezy webmasters in my own industry "borrowing" my stuff. There have been dozens of them! Last count was 38 in total!

mutter, mutter ... bunch of used car salesmen ....

Mardi_Gras




msg:323712
 2:25 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Gotta go with credit card chargebacks. I just had a charge protested (he didn't recognize the name on the credit card summary because the credit card company had shortened it so badly.)

I had a signed receipt with his credit card number hand written - I called him, he agreed the charge was valid - I got my money back from the CC company, minus their $15 chargeback fee. For a chargeback everyone involved agreed was not warranted.

If he had continued to protest - even though I had a signed receipt and he had my merchandise - they would have given him his money back.

I know this isn't news to you guys who deal with this every day, but I don't know how you don't go postal over this stuff...the $15 was a principal thing, but it made me realize how easily the merchant can get left holding the bag.

Don't think I'll be taking credit cards for the vaction rentals anytime soon...

dingman




msg:323713
 4:26 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Domain registrars - thankfully, I've only ever had to deal with one, and they've been great. I can't think why I would ever want to transfer away from them, and given the horror stories I've heard I dread the day when I need to register in a TLD that good old GANDI SARL doesn't handle. (That day probably comes when .kids.us becomes available. Shudder.) I'm very, very glad that I spent the day reading the fine print of service agreements before I registered my first domain.

ISPs - Ick. Any excuse to pretend your problem is someone else's fault. Usually without finding out what it is first.

Robert Charlton




msg:323714
 5:52 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

The hoops you have to jump through to opt out of many mailing lists... postal as well as email.

Opting out of lists from utilities, banks, gasoline credit cards, etc, is an ongoing nightmare. Though the Feds require them to have an opt-out options, their instructions at every step of the way make the whole process unclear and cumbersome.

And the customer service phone lines of many of these companies... once you've punched in your 20-digit ID number, they put you on hold and play you a two-minute commercial while the computer "checks your account."

And online... opting out from real-company mailing lists that you never wanted to be on in the first place... Often they send you to an opt out page where you can't find the instructions to get off the lists, and if you do find the right link, it doesn't work.

Don't get me started...

tbear




msg:323715
 8:03 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

I'm sure I shouldn't get started here.....

Spanish national telephone co.
When a provincial newspaper stated that their fees were too high, they stated that it was far too complicated a process to figure out how much they charged, to make such a statement....LOL

A certain Spanish/now international service provider "(spanish for earth)" who at the beginning of last year cut me off and during the same summer started taking money from my bank account again. If I call to complain it could take me months to sort out and cost me in call charges (not to mention getting uptight at the innocent operators who are trained to pass you on).
I knew I shouldn't..... :(

sem4u




msg:323716
 8:09 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Webhosts: a certain webhost has done the following without my permission: changed site ip addresses, changed usernames & passwords, moved sites to a new server, went down for 5 days! etc.

volatilegx




msg:323717
 8:12 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

Adult webmasters buying my software :)

Actually, the great majority of adult webmasters seem like honest folk.

jk3210




msg:323718
 8:42 pm on Jan 15, 2003 (gmt 0)

TV Cable companies pretending to provide reliable internet access.

They should stick to Gilligan's re-runs and let DSL do the heavy lifting.

austtr




msg:323719
 12:30 am on Jan 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

Maybe not sleazy... but definitely in the "what cheeses me off!" category.

Automated telephone switchboard:

"Welcome to *****. We'll just spend the next 45 seconds telling you what we do even though you already know that because that is why you called in the first place...."

"Your call is important to us..." bollocks. You are so focussed on cost cutting, your customer service is undermanned and you work the guts out of the poor buggars operating the phone.

"You call may be monitored for"... can I speak to that monitor, I'm keen to discuss some customer service issues.

"Your call has been placed in a queue. You will be attended to by the next available operator".... translation is "we have no intention of paying for the manhours necessary to provide adequate customer support, but see nothing wrong with you sitting there burning up your time. We know it pi**es you off and we intend to do sod all about it"

"You are #17 in the queue".... click. Not any more.

Websites that have no telephone contact numbers. "Idiot... I don't want to fill in your stupid bloody form, I want to speak to a person"

Cheap web hosting (arranged by the client)

Q. "What stats are you providing?"
A. "You can add a counter on your site if you want"

Q. "What preferred scripts do you provide"
A. "Go find your own"

Q. "What about so and so?"
A "We'll try and get back to you in the next few days"

And finally, my all time bitch. Responses that start with "you just..." No, actually I'm paying you for a service, I don't just do anything... you are the service provider in this deal.

grnidone




msg:323720
 12:43 am on Jan 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

The electric company. I want to go off the grid.

DrCool




msg:323721
 12:49 am on Jan 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

It would probably be an online casino we dealt with 4 or 5 years ago. This was before they got really popular. We never really felt like we could trust anything they said.

Jakpot




msg:323722
 2:23 pm on Jan 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

The gentlepersons who use hidden text and links. Otherwise their work product sux.

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