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Terrible day due to PSA
bzprod




msg:1321274
 2:44 am on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Hello Everyone,

I have been in adsense since August and have been very consistent with impressions as well as earnings. Today I noticed that I received WAY less click throughs. This has also caused me to earn way over 100% less than I usually do.

I checked my site and see nothing but PSAs. My site is very clean and has always showed very relevant ads. I have never even seen a single PSA on my site before today.

Why would I all of a sudden start showing PSAs? Without getting into numbers, both September and October I made multiple 4 figures with adsense.

I have a very high CTR. I would say way better than most, and this is certainly due to the industry that I am in. This has been consistant since day one.

Can someone please inform me as to why this would happen? Does anyone have any experience with this? I know google can find relevant ads for my site because it has for months. I am also on the first page in google results for 90-95% of my keywords.

I am thinking that a flag might have been placed or something. I am not really worried, because I play by the rules. This is, however, a big concern of mine. I don't buy into the idea that Google can not find relevent ads. This is certainly not the case.

Thanks in advance!

-Bzprod

 

loanuniverse




msg:1321275
 2:53 am on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I checked my site and see nothing but PSAs. My site is very clean and has always showed very relevant ads. I have never even seen a single PSA on my site before today.

You could be suffering from the same thing that is plaguing ThatAdamGuy's site. If you are not yet using the default ad option, I suggest you use it at least that way you will use the inventory. In addition, you should be able to quantify the percentage of defaults. Although by you saying 100% less revenue, I would guess 100% PSAs. If on the other hand, you meant 50% then you are still getting some paid ads.

Run that and after 24 hours if it hasn't fixed itself I would contact google. Although when you are talking that kind of money I do not know if I would wait 24 hours.

Good luck.

bzprod




msg:1321276
 3:48 am on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

Thanks for the quick reply. You are correct, I am receiving 100% PSA ads on my main site. I have adsense on a total of 3 sites. The two smaller sites are still showing paid ads, however, I would guess that they account for less than 1% of income generated.

I will try contacting Google if this problem remains. I forgot to mention that my main site is an ecommerce site, so Adsense is not my primary source of income by any means.

-BZProd

cyberprosper




msg:1321277
 10:41 pm on Nov 2, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am having my worst weekend in over 6 weeks. OUCH!

whizkiddo




msg:1321278
 3:31 am on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

It seems cyberprosper that your holdings in cyber land arent prospering as much as you would like, Hehe. Having said that I am in the same boat and after convincing myself in the last week that the low amounts were due to the end of month. I am now (unsucessfully) trying to convince myself that the low figures on the first two days of the month are due to the week end blues.

Conclusion: Take advantage of adsense but have alternate revenue sources.

bzprod




msg:1321279
 7:30 pm on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Update:

It has been three days and I still have not heard from Google. This is starting to get very disturbing. I love Google though I am not very happy with them right now. I am thinking of taking adsense off of my main site if they do not fix this soon. I am surprised that I have not heard back yet. In my email, I told them that it wasn't due to many of the things that others have complained about (new site, etc.) I did this in hopes that they do not have a form letter for me. :) We'll see.

So,
-71 days of $XXX.00/day.
-3 days of $X.00/day. (Just a few dollars from 2 small sites that are delivering targeted ads. Main site is 100% PSA)

C'mon Google. I am trying to make you some money. I have even spoken to some adwords advertisers that appear on my site and they have said that they are very happy with conversions. This is ridiculous

I'll chime in in a couple of days or if I hear something from them.

-Bzprod

hyperkik




msg:1321280
 11:08 pm on Nov 3, 2003 (gmt 0)

Last I checked, Google kept regular office hours - 9:00 AM - 5:00 PM, PST. If you send them an email on Friday, it is reasonable to expect to wait until Monday or Tuesday for a reply, depending upon how many other inquiries they must wade through before they can investigate and address your concern.

bzprod




msg:1321281
 5:59 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Problem has been solved. This happened a few hours after a response from Google. Thank you Google...

-bzprod

Blue_Fin




msg:1321282
 6:00 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

Could you please let us know what the issue was? I'm sure others who are experiencing this problem would like to know.

bzprod




msg:1321283
 7:12 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

ok...Either I'm going crazy or something very weird is happening. I was showing fully targeted ads all across my site for about 30 minutes. Now I am seeing nothing but PSAs again. Darn, I give up...I'll just wait for Google to "fix it". I don't know if there is something else to do.

Disregard my previous excitement.

-bzprod

cpals




msg:1321284
 8:01 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

This new month has been *extremely* bad for me. My earnings have been like 70% less than normal. :(

NeedScripts




msg:1321285
 8:17 am on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

It seems like PSA ads are taking over everything and revenue Ad Networks like Tribal Fusion is now seeming more reliable than that from AdSense.

I hope AdSense does not continue this, and will not die out quickly.

NS

androidtech




msg:1321286
 2:13 pm on Nov 4, 2003 (gmt 0)

NeedScripts,

I never heard of Tribal Fusion but now that you mentioned them I can look for it. Is there a list of other *reliable* ad networks? I know I can search for them using a search engine, but I'd rather not take the hard way when it comes to finding out which are good and which are not which is why I'm asking if their is a "recommended" list of ad networks. (right now I know about AdSense, SearchFeed, and AdSonar. RevenuePilot seems to be having site problems lately.)

NeedScripts




msg:1321287
 7:51 am on Nov 5, 2003 (gmt 0)

I am not big fan of others (have tried tons of them).. as Triabal Fusion can give much much much higher cpm rate compared to other places...

NS

bzprod




msg:1321288
 12:31 am on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Still no reply from google, still 100% PSAs. According to my average before this stunt, I have oficially lost $$$HUNDREDS so far this month. Tonight, I will begin ripping Adsense code from my site. I may leave the code on ONE page. When/if I get an email from google saying that they "fixed" the problem, then I will only consider adding the code back.

I am no longer thrilled with google as a company.

NeedScripts




msg:1321289
 3:24 am on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I think Google is maybe trying out something....

Also, if they are not, then I am pretty darn sure that there will be tons of publishers who would be willing to try out Overture's new program (I hope they are working on it) for publisher and as per googles term most publisher can't use google and something else at the same time, so I believe many publishers will use Overture if they are going to be any better than adsense.

NS

mickmel




msg:1321290
 4:56 am on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

I wish I had some advice to offer you, but I don't. However, I found this to be odd/funny.

<< This has also caused me to earn way over 100% less than I usually do. >>

That would seem to say that you're LOSING money (100% less would be $0, and you're "way over" that...), which I doubt is the case.

Anyhow, keep us posted on what happens. I would hate for that to happen to anyone else.

Mickey

bzprod




msg:1321291
 6:22 am on Nov 9, 2003 (gmt 0)

Mickey,

Thanks for the reply. I have adsense on a total of three sites. My main site is the only one that is showing PSAs. My other two sites are very small and don't make much money. As far as the main site is concerned, I say 100% less because I am assuming that I am not making a single cent on the site due to 100% PSAs.

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