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friends clicks
if the friends of my friends click on my adsense
bongkph




msg:1350250
 1:50 am on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

is it illegal if i created a network of friends to click on my site or make my site their homepage for a certain category?

is it ok to have them searched within my site? i am talking of internet friends around the world.

 

ann




msg:1350280
 1:53 am on Sep 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

When people ask me how I make money off my websites I tell them I get paid for "showing" ads. NEVER, ever use the C-word when telling friends and family about your site.

Just my, extra, 2 cents.

Ann

makes a little sense




msg:1350281
 1:55 am on Sep 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

novice,

Totally understand. No problem. Sometimes I get caught-up in legal definitions, and sorry I became a legal pitbull. :)

ann,

That's a good idea.

novice




msg:1350282
 2:41 am on Sep 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

The Tripod site people keep refering to is a free hosted website. Tripod is a premium publisher and the revenue from those ads goes to Tripod not the publisher. Tripod offers free web hosting with the agreement that they put ads on the site.

I think the publisher is in the process building the site. I would imagine once the site is complete the publisher will pay for the hosting to get the Tripod ads removed and add his AdSense code

YesMom




msg:1350283
 3:45 am on Sep 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

Same here, Ann.

I tell my friends that I get paid for "hosting" ads on my sites.

YM

wanderingmind




msg:1350284
 3:47 am on Sep 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

We have Cider who started three threads yesterday with the text ta.ta.ta supporting the original poster.

We have KimmoA who has not bothered reading any of the 1000 'I was banned' threads wondering how it can be detected. Another 2 week-old member.

Hell, I wonder why one even bothers to correct these guys. I am not sure I'd even bother to do so when they are so determined to create a bad history for themselves with Google. if only thy would use their determination to do some work :-)

(KimmoA, prove you do read and research this forum, and you shall have that PM / sticky you wanted. Many here would happily help out someone who tries to learn. Me, definitely.)

KimmoA




msg:1350285
 11:18 am on Sep 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

wanderingmind: What have I done to you? I'm fully aware that I have accepted all kinds of agreement here and there in every situation, but it's not like I have a choice not to (then I can't use the service/software).

I don't quite understand what you refer to, so I can't really defend myself. If you're talking about me asking here instead of Google about AdSense matters, it is because I don't like to get lobotomized pre-written business nonsense replies from companies when I can get real-life stories/suggestions from experiences from skilled members. :\

bongkph




msg:1350286
 1:22 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

hold on everybody!

why are there so much criticism on my question? to bad most of them are negatives and an insult. It was asked in general, I never said I will do it. I know the Adsense TOS although only answers part on my question.

Example: Heres the situation, my website is all about insecticides. I have gained internet friends also interested in insecticides, say from forums, news, sites, blogs etc..., Now is it illegal if I tell them to go to my site to find info and links related to insecticides?

Im sorry for using the phrase "click on my site" what I mean is "used the links on my site to find more infos."

Do beginners always have to be subjected to criticism and insult?

incrediBILL




msg:1350287
 1:31 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Now is it illegal if I tell them to go to my site to find info and links related to insecticides?

There's nothing wrong with people bookmarking your site and using it to find information.

Just be careful how you approach it so that they don't feel obligated to click AdSense to keep you in business as Google frowns upon that.

Do beginners always have to be subjected to criticism and insult?

Only when it sounds like you're advocating creating an AdSense click ring.

Besides, sites about insecticides really BUG me...
[bad pun intended]

bongkph




msg:1350288
 1:47 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

thanks a lot incrediBILL,

now I know. It is very obvious, Im a beginner, a newbie who is creating a site with adsense on it. As a responsible publisher, I have to be very cautious at this early stage. That's why I am on this forum to gain useful tips and ideas.

Good thing there are people who understands and gives advices, too bad there are some who critized and even investigated about my sites, background, email, company etc... You should have tell me "No" "Its Illegal." Perhaps, thats the easiest way to answer the question. Rather than be rude and arrogance.

Still, I salute the responsible members and publishers who keeps on helping the dumbest person in this forum...

ownerrim




msg:1350289
 3:27 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

"I have gained internet friends also interested in insecticides."

Dude, I don't ever want to meet your friends.

humblebeginnings




msg:1350290
 6:25 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Bongkph,

It is indeed true that some of us sometimes respond in a sort of offensive way. And I surely must beware of me being one of them.

But sometimes a question seems to imply a plan that should be discouraged. If needed by responding in a sort of mildish offensive way.

And to be honest, I think you really had a bad plan, and now you are trying to sort of repair your initial post. But your original question was rather specific±
is it OK "if the friends of my friends click on my adsense".

That sounds like a very well thought of scheme to let persons that can not be connected to you commit click fraud.

Now you are telling us you just wanted to know if it is OK if your friends (was “friends of friends“) can “use the links“ on your site. (was “click on my adsense“)

The way you explain your original post now is so much different, that I have doubts about the idea that we just misunderstood you...

larryhatch




msg:1350291
 6:39 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Suppose a friend of a friend has a pet monkey?
What's to keep the monkey from clicking away like crazy?
Monkeys do all sorts of goofy stuff. -Larry

Meike




msg:1350292
 7:40 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

is it illegal if i created a network of friends to click on my site or make my site their homepage for a certain category?

I have gained internet friends also interested in insecticides, say from forums, news, sites, blogs etc..., Now is it illegal if I tell them to go to my site to find info and links related to insecticides?

Well, if you tell your "friends" in the way you described in your original post then it is a blatant violation of the TOS. And depending on how you go about it (as described in the 2nd post quoted above), you might still be violating the TOS. It's okay to tell them they can find information on your site, but if you plan to stick with Adsense for the long haul, do not under any circumstances advise them to click on the links!

KimmoA




msg:1350293
 5:15 pm on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

My question is still the same: if they can detect fake clicks, why don't they just ignore them?

humblebeginnings




msg:1350294
 6:59 pm on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

KimmoA,

I think it is useful to Google not to ignore fake clicks. Cause that way they have an easy instrument to kick out frauds in an early stage, before they develop more advanced rip offs. If they would just ignore the fake clicks, frauds would perhaps attempt to develop other ways to rip off the Advertisers. Now G just boots them before these frauds get more sophisticated.

Does this make any sense?

KimmoA




msg:1350295
 7:06 pm on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

Does this make any sense?

Maybe... but there isn't an infinit way of ways to perform fraud.

I'm all clean, though. :)

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