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Adsense TOS terms don't apply if you are also an advertiser!

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 8964 posted 8:33 am on Aug 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

OK - this is a rant. Sorry in advance.

About a month ago I saw a site that most deffinitely contravenes the adsense TOS - seriously in my belief.

Above the fold we have the following:- an adlinks unit in the left column that is clearly intended to trick users that it's site navigation, and an adsense unit in the right column that is clearly intended to be the "content".

Below the fold - WAAAAAY below in fact, in the left column there is a site navigation unit, and in the right hand column guess what - another adsense block.
The site contains NO CONTENT, apart from a couple of links to identical pages on the site, and a site map that is curiously on another site.

Now pardon me for being wrong here, but Google have asked people to report this type of site so they can weed them out of the program. I don't usually bother, but this one I felt was really taking the p**s, so decided to report it and see what happened. I used the ads by goooogle form, emailed adsense support and adsense abuse.

What do you think happened? Nothing - just automated notification of the email.

I know it takes a while to plod through the emails they get and then act on it. Therefore I left it a couple of weeks, and seeing that the site hasn't been made to comply with the tos, or ceased serving ads emailed them again.

What do you think happened? Nothing - just automated notification of the email.

So I emailed them again after another week or so asking if the reason they hadn't made them comply with the tos or been blocked was that they happened to be an adwords advertiser?

What do you think happened? Nothing - just automated notification of the email.

So the message Google are sending out here is very loud, and very clear. As long as you are an adwords advertiser you have CARTE BLANCHE to dissobey all of Google adsense TOS as they clearly have no intention whatsoever of losing a single adwords account - no matter how many rules you break.

ASA, I'll sticky you the url if you are interested in inpursuing this. However, as adsense support AND adsense abuse clearly have no interest I wouldn't hold out too much hope.



5+ Year Member

Msg#: 8964 posted 7:22 pm on Aug 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have both adwords and adsense account.
I emailed them out of fear of compliance with TOS.
They reviewed my site and said, i was breaking their TOS.
So i asked them a week to fix them and i did comply later.

I was having kanoodle, contera and adsense.
Now, i have only adsense.

But, i have a list of many sites, where they are clearly breaking TOS. They are too big sites with page views running in millions.
Same old and same crap of Big Fish and Small Fish in a pond with different rules and restrictions.


WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 8964 posted 8:06 pm on Aug 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

david_uk -

Apologies it took me so long to work up to this thread! I've been recovering from the weekend and catching up on the earliest threads first.

Please do send me a sticky mail regarding the site you mentioned and I'll make sure the appropriate people are following up.

I want to reassure you that all reports of AdSense policy violations are taken seriously and investigated on a case-by-case basis by individual people on the AdSense team. In fact, several members of the team who investigate these reports saw your post and asked me to keep them in the loop (I'm not the only one here who reads WebmasterWorld every day ;) ).

As somebody already mentioned, however, in order to protect the privacy of our publishers we can't tell you specific details about what course of action we plan to pursue, nor can we provide you with information about the outcome of our investigation.

I will pass along your feedback regarding the response you received to your email, though.



WebmasterWorld Senior Member swa66 us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

Msg#: 8964 posted 8:42 pm on Aug 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

ASA, While at it could you please have a look at those advertisers that seem to not even have a site?

I'm refering to those ads for ebay or amazon. They send the visitor eventually to amazon or ebay (with the appropriate affiliate code no doubt), but the printed URL in the ad (default color sceme the green text) says www.ebay.com or www.amazon.com. [they also use the other TLDs like www.ebay.de]

I woudn't mind it all that much if they didn't run utterly impossible ads, that just scream 'SCAM' as e.g. ebay isn't selling abstract concepts or public property AFAIK.

For a suspect list: check the displayed URL, should be one SQL query to catch many. Unfortunately us publishers cannot regexp exclude on that field ..., the field we can exclude on is the one that changes every so often.

Please kick those out permanently. They have no content whatsoever, amazon or ebay have the content, and even they are't selling some of the stuff that's being advertized for.

Killing them with the URL filter is a pain and it really hurts coversion ratios if we miss one.


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