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Stats Stuck?
'Stuck Stats' Thread Haters need not enter this thread...
moneyraker

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Msg#: 8526 posted 9:41 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Stats stuck for the last 2-3 hours, right? I made some major changes to my site so I just want to make sure that the changes are not the reason for the absence of clicks. Thanks...

 

OptiRex



 
Msg#: 8526 posted 9:42 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Stats stuck for the last 2-3 hours, right?

Yep...shhh...

Atomic

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Msg#: 8526 posted 9:46 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Stuck all right. Seems to happen almost every day now. Maybe this is Google's way of saying, "Your have OCD. Get help or stop checking your stats every five minutes."

webpublisher

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Msg#: 8526 posted 9:50 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Confirmed- well and truly stuck

moneyraker

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Msg#: 8526 posted 9:52 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks, guys. Let's leave it at that before the 'stuck-stats-thread starter' bashers run after my neck! (LOL)

James

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Msg#: 8526 posted 9:59 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Stuck here as well. I dont mind if they stick as long as when they unstick they catch up, but they dont seem to do that

RonS

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:01 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Stats are stuck?

I just though my sense of time was warped, like a flashback to the 60's...

While we're waiting for an update, how about some emoticon artwork?

I'll start.

Oo. <--- Fallen Snowman

d8^) <--- Me, wearing glasses and my RedSox cap.

Tropical Island

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:01 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

shush! Just want to say that every time this happens I get nervous. Don't want to upset the "stats stuck" bashers either.

GuluGulu

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:04 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yehh..still stuck...

Ankhenaton



 
Msg#: 8526 posted 10:10 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

stuck ... :(

NoLimits

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:22 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Stuck stuck stuck.

It makes me nervous too... I just can't live without the extra $2 a day.

Maybe so many people are submitting complaint forms about Google's Toolbar AutoLink feature that their servers are choking to death. (j/k - I know the servers aren't linked, but I just can't pass up the opportunity to flame AutoLink)

xšŋš - This is me with my fingers crossed.

miguelito

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:34 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

as somebody has already said...i wouldnīt mind if when they "unstick" they caught up but they never do....i donīt believe itīs intentional but google technical glitches and mistakes are costing us an enormous amount of money in terms of a collective group (publishers)
one thing you can be sure of...google may not credit you for all the clicks you get in the "stuck" period but iīve never heard of them not charging advertisers for anything other than "invalid" clicks.
every "frozen stats" period means an extra big bonus bumper pay day for the google cash cow ;)

NoLimits

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:38 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have never made enough to really notice the frozen periods. I am most definitely noticing today's though.

Do you really believe that G pockets the money from these "outages"?

Do the stats really "not catch up" to what they should realistically be?

Atomic

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:38 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

every "frozen stats" period means an extra big bonus bumper pay day for the google cash cow

That posting had some major assertions of fraud. What data can you provide to back them up?

Rodney

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:40 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

google technical glitches and mistakes are costing us an enormous amount of money in terms of a collective group (publishers)

I haven't seen anybody offer any proof of this. Sounds like guessing.

Eltiti

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 8526 posted 10:52 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Call me naive, but I don't think Google would intentionally withhold money from webmasters... Strange stuff, this "trust" thing!

moneyraker

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Msg#: 8526 posted 10:59 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

But do you all agree that earnings tend to be lower on days when the stats get stuck for a long time? I've observed this many times already.

I have a theory on why this happens. When the stats are stuck, it's because Google is using their resources on something else. It is therefore possible that they're also using resources that would normally be used to serve well-targeted ads to our pages. As such, our pages suffer from poorly targeted ads, resulting in lower earnings. In short, stuck stats mean more than just 'stuck stats', it may also mean lower earnings for us.

internetguy

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:04 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

We should start Adsensoholics Anonymous...

Anyone interested?

Tropical Island

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:09 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

every "frozen stats" period means an extra big bonus bumper pay day for the Google cash cow ;)

That's just unsupported hogwash.

Anyone who has been working with Google for any length of time would not feel the same way.

Time to get the aluminum hat out.

novice

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:10 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

My stats are also stuck, so I came here to see if there was a thread about it. I am also writing in small font to stay under the radar of the flamers of these threads

Rodney

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:11 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

But do you all agree that earnings tend to be lower on days when the stats get stuck for a long time?

No, this is definitely not the case with everyone.

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:11 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's actually been 4 hours now since I've seen an update as my last update was right before noon and now it's 4pm PST. The bad part is it was looking like it would be my best day EVER as the early morning numbers were HUGE and then the stats stopped so I'm bouncing off the walls waiting to see an update.

google technical glitches and mistakes are costing us an enormous amount of money in terms of a collective group (publishers)

ROFLMAO - I've never seen a day when stats stuck that they didn't "catch up" later.

Besides, how would Google get away with it?

My daily traffic is so dependable you could set your watch to it on most days on both my server stats and Google stats so anything extremely out of the ordinary would stand out like a sore thumb.

Kinitz

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 8526 posted 11:14 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

"how would Google get away with it?" -- Google can get away with everything, so why to wonder?

jahfingers

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:17 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

my Adsense Revenue Checker app is cranked up to every 15 minutes now..... how many more zeros will there be?

I actually got one extra impression sometime between 2:11 and 2:26 :)

Ankhenaton



 
Msg#: 8526 posted 11:18 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think this is extremely bad information policy ... what about a nice wee field in the stats centre whats up and when the next stats are coming.

Anyway the googlebot is certainly not stuck it's raping my site like mental.. :¦

Atomic

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:19 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have never seen anything to indicate that stats don't catch up after seeming to be frozen for a while. That's a key thing to consider this "seeming" because it does not naturally follow that if we're not seeing updates in real-time then the clicks are not being credited. We NEVER get stats in real-time and we never have as it is.

On the Pro-Google is stealing from us camp we have lots of knowing looks and "it seems like" statements but the one thing we've never seen is anything even remotely factual to back up the statements leaving us with nothing but paranoia.

Visi

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:21 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Back in the early days of adsense a stall in the stats for a long period normally meant calculating the payments time....so I am patient here:)

miguelito

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:22 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Do you really believe that G pockets the money from these "outages"?

absolutely, like i said, i donīt think itīs deliberate but the idea that somehow the reporting stats/data can be frozen but are somehow miraculously saved" to be applied later, is extremely naive....google is not immune to loss of data as far as i know.

That posting had some major assertions of fraud. What data can you provide to back them up?

major assertions of fraud? I wouldnīt go so far! as for backing them up...how about my own sitesīweb stats which always show major discrepancies on "frozen stats" days but mirror google perfectly when there is no problem.

I haven't seen anybody offer any proof of this. Sounds like guessing.

offer proof how? by posting our server stats in open forum?

Anyone who has been working with Google for any length of time would not feel the same way.

Assuming that everyone feels the same way as you is a very dangerous assumption...iīve been with google both as publisher and advertiser for well over a year now, so your point is?

I am not anti-google, hell, i work with them as everyone does in here but anyone with a PC knows how easy it is to lose data, particularly when your system is responsible for collecting terrabytes of data every day! Iīm staggered by how many of you just accept that "google wouldnīt do that" , itīs not a moral question, no system is 100% flawless, they all have mistakes and are susceptible to glitches....you can accept that the part of their system that transmits stats to your accounts is screwed up but you canīt accept that maybe it is not recording the stats correctly at the same time?

[edited by: miguelito at 11:28 pm (utc) on Aug. 11, 2005]

Atomic

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:25 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

offer proof how? by posting our server stats in open forum?

Anything would be an improvement on rumor and innuendo.

MikeNoLastName

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Msg#: 8526 posted 11:25 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I spend ONE morning away from the computer, and not constantly checking up every hour on Adsense and see what happens? While the cat's away...

Until I checked in here I just attributed the lower than normal clicks for the day so far to being demoted a few positions on Y! this week.

>>But do you all agree that earnings tend to be lower on days when the stats get stuck for a long time? I've observed this many times already.

Kinda, almost seems that way. I wouldn't be surprised if we see another one of those "one time only" credits at the end of the month or next month like we saw some months ago.

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