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How many hours a week do you really work?
Part-time or full-time
OptiRex




msg:1443851
 9:12 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

I know we had a similar thread quite awhile back however I wondered just how many hours per week you spent, if any at all, at optimising your sites for Adsense and working on your site(s) generally?

I used to spend maybe a couple of Adsense hours per week until I got my best placement results until 05.05.05. A few weeks ago I ripped everything apart taking a good couple of days to go through 100+ sites and have done nothing with Adsense modifications since because they have had the desired efect.

General web site work/maintenance I spend maybe 10 hours per week, the other 70 hours I have to do "real" work:-))

 

jetteroheller




msg:1443852
 9:31 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

What count all for work time?

Usenet discussions, finding ideas about themes to write
Talking with people, finding ideas what I thought everybody knows, but most people do not know, so new ideas to write pages about it.

Visiting fairs
Finding the termins from interesting fairs.
Visiting interesting projects
Maiking photos

Hanging around in this forum

Writing articles
Improving the own CMS like RSS feeds implementation and implementing ads by SSI in the last weeks.

Testing the web forms. I usual set up a contact form when I write about a company. When an interest fills the form, I receive a copy, the company receives a copy - normaly.
But I discoverd that unable webmasters set up email filters destroying the emails from my web forms. So I telephoned today 3 companies "Did You receive the web form....". It takes sometimes a long time to explain who I am and what the problem is.

Telephone calls. I had today alone a 20 minute call about some items of my web sites. But this brings ideas where I could write more about.

It's a full time job.

I answer the telephone with ".... online magazines"
I am publisher, chief editor, journalist, photograph from several online magazines.

vordmeister




msg:1443853
 9:34 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've been thinking hard about this. I seem to have way too much work at the moment that keeps me from messing around with my own sites. I've decided to devote Mondays to them.

Started this Monday adding footers with Adsense. Seems there is surprising money in footers on great long pages. I guess people are so relieved to finish reading they'll click anything.

Next Monday I'll catch up on some new pages I've been planning for ages.

hound_dog




msg:1443854
 9:37 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

optirex, unless you have a 100 one-page websites, the time you mention is hard to believe

jetteroheller




msg:1443855
 9:40 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Next Monday I'll catch up on some new pages I've been planning for ages.

I reduced my work as an internet promotion agency as much as possible to have all my time to develop my online magazines.

But even with so much time, there are still pages, I am planing for ages.

OptiRex




msg:1443856
 9:42 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

unless you have a 100 one-page websites, the time you mention is hard to believe

Well, I won't count the last 11-12 years of nigh on 100 hours per week getting to this position:-))

CSS has been THE single most valuable tool for me...simple as that.

ken_b




msg:1443857
 9:42 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

What's this "real work" stuff you speak of?

Is that the time we spend checking our Adsense stats? lol

My site is all static pages, so making even minor site wide changes can take a day or more. As a result, I think long and hard about doing anything like that.

I update anywhere from 0 to 25 pages a day.

Actual hours per day spent working ON the site, I dunno... 2 or 3 on average.

Hours spent thinking about it.... way too many!

Mr_Fern




msg:1443858
 9:48 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Personally there's very little work put into optimizing for adsense. There's very little I can do actually, beyond ad placement. I use adsense on a community based site, so ads are based largely off user profiles and forum discussions.

Zygoot




msg:1443859
 10:24 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

Actually I have no idea how many hours I really spent working on my sites. It's really a thin border beteen work and 'amusement'. Browsing around at Webmasterworld isn't really working, but I do learned and still learn quite a lot over here.

I guess nowadays I spent about 5 hours a day working on my sites..

uhwebs




msg:1443860
 11:19 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

My site is all static pages, so making even minor site wide changes can take a day or more. As a result, I think long and hard about doing anything like that.

I have a static site too. But I use Dreamweaver templates which makes updating way easier. Then I just click the folders that contain the info & upload.

I also had a javascript banner rotation script installed on the site that, instead of containing banner ads, contained the menu on the left, and I had another one for menu on the right, etc. so I could easily add new menu topics by editing 1 file.

I haven't started using other formats, for now my pages are mostly html (except for forum).

Hours spent working... recently I have made a big push since I discovered how to use adsense... probably 5-10/day. Some days none, some days more. it depends.

SpanishBoy




msg:1443861
 11:31 pm on Aug 10, 2005 (gmt 0)

About 6 hours a day (Monday to Friday) and $9,000/month.

I am planning to contract people to ask for links, translate content and other activities.

ClosedGL




msg:1443862
 12:07 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Work is a very difficult to define for me. When it is something I love as much as I do the web itself, it cannot be work! However, that said, I do put a lot of time into my projects (as I like to call them). I work full time for company who provides online training. My salary earning life sees me mainly developing our bespoke systems which account, manage and report various key pieces of information which are crucial to the running of our business.

As a programmer, I spend a lot of time outside of work with various projects on the go. My projects are usually web applications- facilitating productivity for a wide range of people. My main project is a website which allows businesses and consumers to locate other businesses and providers in a given sector. From this project I run Adsense and make enough money to afford a generous curry and a few beers at the end of the month- which I am more than happy with.

So let's do a break down.

9-5 all week days gives me 40 hours baseline. Normally I put approximately 2 hours of coding into side projects an evening per weekday and 30 minutes per evening weekday on my main project. We're upto 52.5 hours. Weekends are a mixed bag. Sometimes I can get engrossed and lose 10 hours a day sometimes I'm useless and do perhaps 2 hours a day... my range would be between 56 hours and 76 hours a day.

Sometimes I'm disappointed I don't work harder. But then I console myself and hope I'm working SMARTER.

europeforvisitors




msg:1443863
 12:40 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Beats me. It's been almost 20 years since I last filled out a timesheet. :-)

incrediBILL




msg:1443864
 1:25 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Work?

What's that?

I'm just relaxing and collecting Webmaster Welfare :)

calman




msg:1443865
 2:11 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I spend a lot of hours every week working on my site, but mainly because I enjoy creating and revising content on it.

Because of the enjoyment, I pay absolutely no attention to the number of hours. It simply does not matter to me. I work on it as I wish. There is always a lot of work to do.

I should add that I am retired from the regular work world. I decided to add AdSense to my 5 year old site when I retired to help supplement the retirement income. I was an "Adsense illiterate" at the time. My earnings in the first month simply blew me away. The earnings are certainly not crucial to my existence but definitely help provide a cushion and additional nest egg.

jonathanleger




msg:1443866
 3:40 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I work about 20 hours a week, and I'm at 5 figures a month now.

Sweet Cognac




msg:1443867
 3:45 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm on the computer from 6:30 in the morning till 11:30 at night with maybe 2 hrs worth of breaks inbetween, and have been doing this routine for the past year and 8 months.

Is there such a thing as workaholics anonymous?

jonathanleger




msg:1443868
 3:52 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

[workaholics-anonymous.org...]

Yup.

sirkei




msg:1443869
 6:51 am on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

<-I'm on the computer from 6:30 in the morning till 11:30 at night with maybe 2 hrs worth of breaks inbetween, and have been doing this routine for the past year and 8 months. ->

Do you not eat? Do you take a bath? Because i am leading the same lifestyle with you.

OptiRex




msg:1443870
 2:07 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Work?

What's that?

I'm just relaxing and collecting Webmaster Welfare :)

Nice one iBill...what's the old saying "Find a job you enjoy and you'll never have to work for the rest of your life!"

Sweet Cognac, sirkei...you need to get a handle on life and join ClosedGL and me for a few beers at midnight to discusss...yep, optimisation!

Does this job ever stop for any other kind of relaxation? :-))

wyweb




msg:1443871
 2:44 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I put my work in for 4 years, 3 anyway, before anything of any significance even started to happen. By "significance" I mean money coming in, even a dollar. This meant having a real job (most of the time anyway) and working on my site(s) at night and on weekends and whenever else I could find a free hour or two. I didn't go out on Friday nights. I stayed home on worked on expanding what little web presence I'd attained. It basically took over my life. Getting links with other sites, optimizing them, doing my best to make sure they got seen, and especially learning from what didn't work. I put in my time, believe me. I mean I couldn't even begin to calculate the hours I've spent on this. My ex would say ga-zillions.

These days I basically check logs and answer email in the mornings. That takes a couple hours. Then I crawl forums for another hour or so to try to stay current on things I need to be current on. Forums are by far the best place to learn and this one is one of the best of the best. If I get through all this fast enough I work on some personal projects I've got going on, sites that will never make me a dime but are important to me anyway and help me feel more like a contributer rather then just a marketer.

By noon I'm done and headed out the door. Couldn't do that with my real job so it had to go....

I think a better question would be how much have you worked in entirety. I worked a LOT at first and now I'm just sort of coasting.

Let's hope the coast continues, eh?

Angelis




msg:1443872
 2:52 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I work about 72 hours a week give or take... :(

lilyfr2k




msg:1443873
 3:39 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's been 5 months since the day I began working as an Adsense publisher. 4 hours a day uniquely in weekends. My site is a forum so I don't have to spend so much time to write content. ;)

johnyfav




msg:1443874
 3:50 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do web dev as a day trade.

I used to work through my lunch but now I find that I can write one review in an hours lunch. So there's 5 hours a week.

I tend to do a bit at the weekend too.

I have only just finished tweaking the site design and that was a longer process and took much more of my time.

Sweet Cognac




msg:1443875
 5:02 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

sirkei, good to see I'm not the ONLY one. I enjoy the challenge I guess, or I wouldn't be doing it. The good news is, after a year and a half, I'm beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe someday I'll be like Billy. :)

Couple of beers sounds good. Thanks. Wish we had a group of Webbers in our state we could get together with.

wyweb




msg:1443876
 5:43 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Wish we had a group of Webbers in our state we could get together with.

check groups... you probably do...

jenkers




msg:1443877
 5:50 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm letting my adsense stuff just float along at the minute so just minimal time on that - the earnings are nice and stable at the moment so its giving me time to do other things. I've launched a few new websites - not Adsense. One purely infomational (no ads at all) to garner links and respectability (good addition to my network) - got straight in ODP now getting links from all over. Been spending time marketing offline (newspaper ads - pushing leaflets through letterboxes etc) promoting a new ultralocal search engine and directory (again - not adsense). And in the spirit of diversification I'm also setting up a real live shop (online) where people can buy things from my own stock/range of products - complete first for me so pretty exciting. Add that to my CPC / affiliate campaigns and my full-time job then the only time I'm not working is when I'm zedding.

But its only due to Adsense that I have the ability/nerve/inspiration/drive/funds to take on all of these things.

GuitarZan




msg:1443878
 6:12 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey,

About 90-95 hrs per week :) I could say more because I spend about 105 hrs per week in front of my computer, but its not all work.

C.K.

Jaunty Edward




msg:1443879
 6:30 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi,

I spend 4-5 hours on my sites which includes ~1 hour of feature enhancements, ~1 hour content adding, ~ 1 hour learning what I want to do on my site...and 2 hours on checking the stats who comes from where etc.

I am thinking of taking a 1-2 month break from my job and work on my sites like crazy...I hope I get the leave.

My Idea is to make the best site in the category and that's the driving force.

Thanks
Bye

aeiouy




msg:1443880
 6:57 pm on Aug 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Personally I would rather work 20 hours a day at something I enjoy then work 4 hours a month at something I disdain.

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