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Preventing Adsense Clicks by Home Network Users
How to make AdSense safe family notebooks
jetteroheller




msg:1462274
 10:08 am on Jul 26, 2005 (gmt 0)

Some weeks ago, my wife nearly clicked on my ads, as she was searching for vacation destinations and found a page from me.

My doughters become also older and will be soon also surfing around.

I am just implementing to insert the AdSense code by SSI. For example

<!--#include virtual="/cgi-bin/ssi.pl?from=german&insert=300x250" -->

Now I want to convert the other notebooks from my family in AdSense secure notebooks

Thats my USER_AGENT
[ Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705; Alexa Toolbar) ]

Seems Alexa changes the USER AGENT string.
I would like to add an unique identifer to the USER_AGENT string, in order that my SSI can sort out my familiy notebooks at inserting the AdSense code.

My server sets 20 year lasting cookies,
but I lost 5 times my own cookie in the last 3 years, so I think cookies are not very reliable.

 

balam




msg:1462304
 4:34 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

Like emodo, I utilize the hosts file to block Google ads, with no apparent ill effects. In fact, I surf a relatvely ad-free Web - you can put more than Google in your hosts file - with no obvious problems.

oddsod




msg:1462305
 4:39 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm sure Brett's post was because he wanted to throw the cat among the pigeons. Do you think he doesn't know what the responses will be? ;)

Brett has always maintained that you've got to click on your ads sometimes. Right from the start of the Adsense program. Don't take the lack of ads on this site to mean anything about his familiarity with the program.

>> What a great idea coming from a Mod...
Actually, he's not a mod ;)

I appreciate Brett's sentiments on freedom and being able to do what you want on your own site, and there is evidence to suggest that Google discounts clicks from your IP (if you have a static IP) but, if you have a smaller account with relatively few clicks per day and you fear the Adsense gods then don't click. If you're on a dynamic IP and you believe you are entitled to that freedom but don't want to cost advertisers money check your Adsense stats first before clicking the ads. That way Google knows that IP is yours and can discount the click/s. Their systems really need to be clued up enough to discount self-clicks.

Brett_Tabke




msg:1462306
 4:41 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

> evidence to suggest that Google discounts clicks from your IP

bingo...

camper




msg:1462307
 4:51 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you're using Internet Explorer, add [pagead2.googlesyndication.com...] to the Restricted Sites zone (Tools > Security > Restricted Sites > Sites). Then nothing will happen if an ad is clicked.

emodo




msg:1462308
 5:04 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

I fear the Adsense Gods.

Tommorrow UPS is delievering 30 virgins, whose blood shall cleanse my site of all invalid clicks.

Amense.

oddsod




msg:1462309
 5:28 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

>> Tommorrow UPS is delievering 30 virgins

They'd better not turn up at my place by mistake. My wife would go apes*it.

ogletree




msg:1462310
 6:27 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

Use Firefox and get the extension that lets you change the user agent. Make one that is unique. Have your webpage detect the UA and when it sees yours have it not include the adsense code.

Hanu




msg:1462311
 8:52 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ever heard of cookies? Write a script that sets/resets a cookie. Change your pages to only insert the adsense block if the cookie isn't set. I believe SSI is capable of testing cookies. Then go to every computer in your LAN and fetch the script to set the cookie. Done!

BTW: Cookie lifetime should be very long. I also use this technique to filter requests from my computers in my weblogs and statistics.

balam




msg:1462312
 9:15 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

> Ever heard of cookies? [...] BTW: Cookie lifetime should be very long.

Sounds like s/he has, including longevity...

From the first post by jetteroheller in this thread:

My server sets 20 year lasting cookies [...]

sailorjwd




msg:1462313
 9:25 pm on Jul 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

Have fun guys.. I find it simpler to not click on my ads - I think it is called the kiss principle.

Don't forget to look up the barrel of your guns to make sure they are clean. I think that goes with most of what brett and oddsod are dribbling about.

shri




msg:1462314
 3:06 am on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

>> > evidence to suggest that Google discounts clicks from your IP

Yes, I have seen this in action.

The thing is we need to see adverts. Many times, looking at the URL reveals a good site which can be added to our resources directory or (this happens more often and the reason we do it) the site whose advertisement showed up on our site, has a good affiliate program which would make us more money than Adsense.

Also, my 3 year old likes to surf "papas dub dub dub dot com" :)

At the end of the day the G man has plenty of algorithic and statistical tools to figure out whats going on.

Again, I'm not advocating clicking on your ads "to test them out" ... but what I'm saying is I would not spend sleepless nights designing advanced firewalls and coding useragents. I'd spend that time getting an additional inbound link or updating my dog's blog. :)

Brett_Tabke




msg:1462315
 11:26 am on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

> evidence to suggest that Google discounts clicks from your IP

Yes, I have seen this in action.

And should lay to rest this nonsense stuff about not clicking your own ads to see if they lead to your direct competitor.

shri




msg:1462316
 11:32 am on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Umm.. yeah, well, now watch me spend the rest of the year waiting for the termination letter.

I would like to clarify a couple of things.

Do your testing by stripping out the adsense code to check out where the URL is leading to.

Accidents happen ... whenever they've happened, the adsense / adwords cookies have been active.

I look at this as a business relationship... we've done well with G and G has in some way made a little bit of money of us.

dcrombie




msg:1462317
 11:58 am on Jul 28, 2005 (gmt 0)

Re: cookies

A lot of people are under the impression that a cookie with a '+20 year' expiry date will stay in the browser for 20 years. This is not the case.

The number of cookies that your browser will store at one time is limited. When that number is reached, older cookies are eradicated on a FIFO basis.

If you want you cookie to last for ever, you need to re-set it on each visit to the site.

;)

amznVibe




msg:1462318
 8:47 am on Jul 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

camper had the right idea with this, but a personal firewall is even more flexible:
if you're using Internet Explorer, add [pagead2.googlesyndication.com...] to the Restricted Sites zone (Tools > Security > Restricted Sites > Sites). Then nothing will happen if an ad is clicked.

Just put a personal firewall on any PC and you can block ads even on just a site specific basis and it works across any browser.
You can also toggle the firewall on and off if you need to do testing.
I have it setup so I can see the ads but if I click on any of them, they don't go anywhere using the filter "pagead2."

You should not be running a PC today without a personal firewall anyway.
If you think you are protected by what microsoft gives you, you are very wrong.

If you absolutely must click an ad to see where it goes, use the "remove redirects" bookmarklet to change all the adwords links into direct urls:
[squarefree.com...]

zCat




msg:1462319
 9:10 am on Jul 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

The number of cookies that your browser will store at one time is limited. When that number is reached, older cookies are eradicated on a FIFO basis.

This is the first time I've heard of this. Does this affect all browsers? Do you have any more specific info?

dcrombie




msg:1462320
 9:40 am on Jul 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

Do you have any more specific info?

There are limitations on the number of cookies that a client can store at any one time. This is a specification of the minimum number of cookies that a client should be prepared to receive and store.

* 300 total cookies
* 4 kilobytes per cookie, where the name and the OPAQUE_STRING combine to form the 4 kilobyte limit.
* 20 cookies per server or domain. (note that completely specified hosts and domains are treated as separate entities and have a 20 cookie limitation for each, not combined)

Servers should not expect clients to be able to exceed these limits. When the 300 cookie limit or the 20 cookie per server limit is exceeded, clients should delete the least recently used cookie. When a cookie larger than 4 kilobytes is encountered the cookie should be trimmed to fit, but the name should remain intact as long as it is less than 4 kilobytes.


amznVibe




msg:1462321
 4:24 pm on Jul 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

The above is from netscape's original spec
[wp.netscape.com...]
more at wikipedia:
[en.wikipedia.org...]

AdSenseAdvisor




msg:1462322
 5:11 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Please note that in order to preserve the integrity of the AdSense program, clicking on your own ads for any reason is prohibited by the AdSense terms of service.

I assure you that publishers are compensated for all valid clicks to your AdSense ads.

Of course, we also understand that many publishers wish to see exactly who is advertising on your sites. If you wish to visit the destination URL of the ads appearing on your site, I recommend using the AdSense preview tool:

[google.com ]

Clicks from the preview tool will not be charged to advertiser accounts, so you can make sure the ads appearing on your site are appropriate.

Thanks,

ASA

Inhibit




msg:1462323
 9:21 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Do you have a preview tool in a web flavor or possibly for Linux? It sounds handy and I'm afraid a Windows solution doesn't do me much good.

zCat




msg:1462324
 10:04 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

dcrombie and amznVibe: thanks for the info (I missed the updates to the thread the other day).

AdSenseAdvisor




msg:1462325
 11:29 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

Inhibit –

Good point… I know many of you use operating systems other than Windows.

Currently, we only offer a Windows version of the AdSense preview tool. However, if you use a different operating system you can still view your Google ads without generating invalid clicks to your account. For specific instructions, please see:

[google.com ]

Cheers,

-ASA

error10




msg:1462326
 3:50 am on Aug 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've written a Greasemonkey script that prevents you from clicking on your own AdSense ads with your own publisher ID, and it's working quite well for me. You still see the ads, which is important when you're working on your site, but nothing happens if you click on them. You of course need Firefox and Greasemonkey.

I don't know if I'm allowed to post the URL for it, but a Google search should turn it up. I hope :)

jerrylim




msg:1462327
 4:45 pm on Aug 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

it's really scary if "accidental" case happened. Even tho we're not on purpose. :/

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