homepage Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.234.128.25
register, free tools, login, search, subscribe, help, library, announcements, recent posts, open posts,
Subscribe to WebmasterWorld
Visit PubCon.com
Home / Forums Index / Google / Google AdSense
Forum Library, Charter, Moderators: incrediBILL & jatar k & martinibuster

Google AdSense Forum

This 68 message thread spans 3 pages: 68 ( [1] 2 3 > >     
Google account disabled
justadsin




msg:1391045
 12:24 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hello. This is my first post in this forum, though i've been viewing for a few weeks.

Just today, my google account was disabled. They didn't give me a reason, other than that i've violated something in their TOS. I've read over the TOS very carefully, and the only thing i can see that might make sense, is that 3 days ago, i pulled down an article (from my site, written by someone else) that has curse words in it. I don't promote this type of language on any of my websites, so i took it down, but left the adsense intact for that page. Over the last few days, i've still been generating traffic to the page ($100+ per day in adsense revenue). I had intentions of putting up a new article with similar content (minus the curses), but didn't have an opportunity to until today. I was actually in the process of typing the updated article when i got the email from google. I've explained this to them, but i haven't gotten an email back yet. The reason i'm worried is because my website is my main source of income, and i'm currently expecting a $2400 check from google, which i now fear they won't send me.
Does anyone know what i can do? any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

ShunT




msg:1391046
 12:29 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sorry to break this to you but Google normaly doesn't budge when it comes to TOS violators. Once you break their TOS they won't send you any of the past checks they owe you. You're welcome to email them if it makes you feel better.... but I've yet to see a case where they overturn their past rulings.

MadMax101




msg:1391047
 12:32 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Oh my, that's very frustrating. They're kinda banning you for doing the right thing but being busy at the same time. Wish you all the best. (and sorry for writing an unhelpful post)

spaceylacie




msg:1391048
 12:40 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Well, 30 times 100 is $3000 a month. If you are expecting a check for $2400, I'm taking that to mean that's what you earned in a recent month.

So, now you are making more than that from a page that violates TOS(excessive bad language) or doesn't exist.

Something sounds fishy to me too, I think you have some explaining to Google to do. Good luck to you.

justadsin




msg:1391049
 12:50 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

"Well, 30 times 100 is $3000 a month. If you are expecting a check for $2400, I'm taking that to mean that's what you earned in a recent month.
So, now you are making more than that from a page that violates TOS(excessive bad language) or doesn't exist.

Something sounds fishy to me too, I think you have some explaining to Google to do. Good luck to you. "

I was only running adds for about 20 days last months (only 15 days after solid optimization). i typically average $120-160/day. These last few days, the link was still there, just no content (other than adsense) on the page. they didn't disable me for bad language.. that's MY policy (not their's). They didn't give me a reason why they disabled me, but i suspect it was because the page didn't have content.

incrediBILL




msg:1391050
 12:51 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

but I've yet to see a case where they overturn their past rulings.

Incorrect - SuzyVirtual was reinstated

Suzy gets booted:
[webmasterworld.com...]

Suzy gets reinstated:
[webmasterworld.com...]

See if this helps get your account back.

spaceylacie




msg:1391051
 1:07 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

These last few days, the link was still there, just no content (other than adsense) on the page. they didn't disable me for bad language

Yeah, that's a violation too, nothing besides Adsense.

I wasn't trying to be rude, I meant, really, explain things. I'm just saying that I can see why they got suspicious. Explain yourself clearly... like Bill said, it's possible.

justadsin




msg:1391052
 2:35 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

i just wish google made it easier to talk to someone. i've dedicated over 400000 impressions to them, and i think that deserves one meaningful conversation with a meaningful explanation. My main hope is that i still get paid for last month, so in the worst case, i can still pay my bills and just start up with someone else next month.

andrea99




msg:1391053
 2:52 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yes this abruptness disturbs me and inclines me to diversify my income. If they were a little less abrupt and offered more explanation I'd be more comfortable using the Adsense program exclusively.

Dantol




msg:1391054
 3:31 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

justadsin,
please stop excuses. Your account was disabled because you cheated. Many publishers cheat - nothing new. Only fraction of cheaters get their accounts disabled.

STOP CHEATING!

yolkman




msg:1391055
 3:37 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

That's strange. They normally dont ban your account for content violation, but they will ban you for invalid clicks.

I have been warned for more than 5 times for content which violates google TOS.

StephenBauer




msg:1391056
 3:47 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

yolkman,

Maybe they view the "empty" page with just AdSense as cheated clicks...kind of like a cloaking situation in their mind.

justadsin,

As SLacie suggested, explain, explain, explain and do so in a very business-like and professional manner. Then just hope for the best.

Dantol




msg:1391057
 3:49 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

hmmmmm.......

justadsin




msg:1391058
 4:16 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

"justadsin,
please stop excuses. Your account was disabled because you cheated. Many publishers cheat - nothing new. Only fraction of cheaters get their accounts disabled.
STOP CHEATING!"

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

You don't know anything about the content that i publish or my website or practices. I don't cheat at all. No invalid clicks or popups or purchased traffic or anything like that. maybe you should get your story straight before you start accusing people of things which you know nothing about!

sirkei




msg:1391059
 4:26 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Don't get too mad. He said you're cheating because putting up an adsense ad with no content means breaking the TOS.

There is a rule that says you cannot put adsense on no content pages. Because this is like forcing the visitors to click on your ad. There are no contents on that page except the adsense ad.

Cheers

Woz




msg:1391060
 4:26 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ladies and Gentlemen, lets discuss this in a Civil Manner please.

Onya
Woz

Jenstar




msg:1391061
 4:33 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

They normally dont ban your account for content violation

If you receive a warning to fix something on your page and you do not do so, they will suspend you for it. However, once you make the changes they wanted in the first place, they will usually reinstate your account.

Normally the suspended emails do include a more specific reason than terms violation, such as invalid clicks. It might be worthwhile to double check it once more and see if they do give a reason more specific than content violation. Others have missed it on the initial read-through.

Dantol




msg:1391062
 4:34 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

sirkei, thanks.

justadsin,
you have to understand that people who pay for advertising are people who earn their money hard. Cheating on them is immoral. You have to understand one more thing, and please memorize it:

"There is NO easy way out."

We would all like to be rich and wealthy and not getting up in the morning and heading to work. But as you know, that's not the case. There are rules to this game (*game meaning 'life'). We can't become rich overnight when we please, so another lesson is:

"Hard work will pay off."

If you believe these two life lessons that I just told you, YOU WILL SUCCEED eventually.

So, take my lessons as a friendly advice, not as some kind of attack upon your personality.

justadsin




msg:1391063
 4:52 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

i've been working hard at everything i do since i was 13 years old. but on a more important note, i did double check the email, and though i don't think i can publish the whole email here, i believe this to be the pertinant part, "... Our specialists have found that your account is not in compliance with
these program policies. As a result, we have disabled your account. ..."

Jenstar




msg:1391064
 5:23 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

is not in compliance with these program policies

That sounds more like an issue with the type of content on your site. A start is to look at the policy page:
https://www.google.com/adsense/policies

In particular, did your content violate the "site may not include" section of the policies?

Site Content
Site may not include:

  • Excessive profanity
  • Violence, racial intolerance, or advocate against any individual, group, or organization
  • Hacking/cracking content
  • Illicit drugs and drug paraphernalia
  • Pornography, adult, or mature content
  • Gambling or casino-related content
  • Excessive advertising
  • Any other content that promotes illegal activity or infringes on the legal rights of others
  • Pop-ups, pop-unders or exit windows that interfere with site navigation, obscure Google ads, change user preferences, or are for downloads. Other types of pop-ups, pop-unders, or exit windows may be allowed, provided that they do not exceed a combined total of 5 per user session
  • Excessive, repetitive, or irrelevant keywords in the content or code of web pages
  • Deceptive or manipulative content or construction to improve your site's search engine ranking, e.g., your site's PageRank
  • Incentives (monetary or point-based) to users to click on links or ads while visiting a site containing Ads
  • Sales or promotion of certain weapons, such as firearms, ammunition, balisongs, butterfly knives, and brass knuckles
  • Sales or promotion of beer or hard alcohol
  • Sales or promotion of tobacco or tobacco-related products
  • Sales or promotion of prescription drugs
  • Sales or promotion of products that are replicas or imitations of designer goods

If so, that is why your account was suspended.

david_uk




msg:1391065
 5:42 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I might be on the wrong track here, so apologies in advance that being the case.

By looking at the OP's profile, and the website you can make by changing the *@ to www. you get a page for a company that offers free web hosting and adult entertainment development. Google will not allow adsense on adult entertainment sites. If the page that has the banners on isn't adult orientated, and in complaince means nothing if the site theme is adult entertainment.

roycerus




msg:1391066
 6:06 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I do not think it can just be because of ONE page which has no content or ONE bad language instance. There has to be more to it. Sometime back I spoke to the adsense team regarding some of my pages. I was trying to start my own in-house advertising area and wanted to be sure that it didn't break any of the TOS rules [look and feel wise].

They told me that there isn't any problem and if they find any problem with any of the pages they will write to me and ask me to remove the adsense code from those pages. Well, if that is the way it happens I think it's great.. it gives the publisher a fair chance to get things right. But I guess it's not always like that. I think the problem is also subjective to "who" is reviewing your account. Since its also a matter of judgement and some support guys may just prefer to send the disabled email rather than investigate the problem and advice the user.

justadsin




msg:1391067
 6:29 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

"I might be on the wrong track here, so apologies in advance that being the case.
By looking at the OP's profile, and the website you can make by changing the *@ to www. you get a page for a company that offers free web hosting and adult entertainment development. Google will not allow adsense on adult entertainment sites. If the page that has the banners on isn't adult orientated, and in complaince means nothing if the site theme is adult entertainment. "

the website and pages that i have my adsense code on are completely separate from web1000 (the site you're referring to).

I did find out one other thing over the past few hours as i've been investigating to see what i may have done wrong. about 5% of my purchased traffic (some of my traffic comes from an IT company that i do business with), was going directly to the page without the content. I didn't realize that this was happening, as the other traffic was equally dispursed over my other websites. But now that i've discovered that, it makes a lot more sense why google would have shut it down. Now i just have to figure out a way of explaining to them that i really didn't realize that this was going on, and trying to get them to give me a second chance.

david_uk




msg:1391068
 6:34 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I wish you luck with trying to get re-instated. We have seen them re-instate one poster here, so it may be that if you can explain to them, and they are convinced they will re-instate you too. They tend to be over-reliant on bots, and getting to talk to a human is a bit of a problem at times:(

moneyraker




msg:1391069
 8:36 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think this is not the first post about an account disabled due to purchased traffic. This probably confirms that purchasing traffic is not a wise idea if you have an Adsense site, especially if you're not sure where that traffic is coming from and how it is being diverted to you. Getting evenly distributed traffic from real searches or links is still the best way to go I guess.

oddsod




msg:1391070
 9:06 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think this is not the first post about an account disabled due to purchased traffic. This probably confirms that purchasing traffic is not a wise idea if you have an Adsense site

1. I can't see any causal effect. What makes you think that purchasing traffic was itself responsible for the account being disabled?

2. Lots of people purchase traffic all the time. If they didn't Adwords wouldn't exist and, by implication, neither would Adsense.

Jon_King




msg:1391071
 11:24 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

justadsin, I think the best way to look at it is to consider the AdSense advertisers on your site as your customers. 'Your' advertisers deserve quality clicks and it is your job to see that they do.

Forget the TOS for a moment and consider whether your goal is to get a profit-generating click for your 'customer' or just any click to boost your income.

Here's a recent case for me as an example. I recently posted in another forum about a group of high traffic sites that picked up one of my sites and linked to it. I found out through the server logs, and the AdSense reporting the traffic is 1000 times normal and the clicks are really, really up.

Great you say, nope. The high traffic off-color sites that are linking to me are poking fun at the product offering and in no way could be a sale for this product or any of the AdSense advertisers. These are bad clicks for 'my' AdSense advertisers.

I removed the AdSense from this site because I know if I ensure quality clicks to 'my' advertisers I am doing my job and abiding by the goal and spirit of the AdSense TOS.

uk_webber




msg:1391072
 12:59 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I agree with Dantol. You should take it on the chin and next time refrain from trying to cheat the system.

If you play with fire....

moneyraker




msg:1391073
 1:49 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

[I can't see any causal effect. What makes you think that purchasing traffic was itself responsible for the account being disabled?]

Here's what I was thinking (just a theory so feel free to shoot holes int it) - purchasing traffic per se is not bad, which is why a lot of people are doing it. It will definitely boost one's traffic. Unfortunately, purchasing traffic from the wrong people may get you 'uneven' or worse, dishonest, traffic, e.g., a bunch of visits to a single page, visits that never last a second on your site, etc. After all, if these people are out there to make a quick buck, so their main concern would just be to send you traffic, NOT quality traffic. Now if these 'visits' would tend to show a pattern and skew your Google stats (such as large revenues from just a few pages), then it would raise G's suspicion and probably prompt them to take you out of the program if the pattern they see crosses their 'threshold.'


oddsod




msg:1391074
 1:53 pm on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

this is my first post

Where are our manners? Welcome to WW, justadsin.

I agree with Dantol

There's a dangerous tendency here to presume guilt. Step away from the pitchforks, guys. This forum is to discuss issues related to Adsense not to deride, point fingers or gloat, and certainly not to get all emotional and sanctimonious. I guarantee every single one of you is in violation of at least one Adsense requirement (bear in mind this includes the strict webmaster guidelines). So, when a fellow webmaster asks for help, remember: it could have been you.

I agree that "purchasing traffic" is not the same as "purchasing traffic from the wrong people". We have no evidence at this stage that the purchased traffic is from a shady source.

This 68 message thread spans 3 pages: 68 ( [1] 2 3 > >
Global Options:
 top home search open messages active posts  
 

Home / Forums Index / Google / Google AdSense
rss feed

All trademarks and copyrights held by respective owners. Member comments are owned by the poster.
Home ¦ Free Tools ¦ Terms of Service ¦ Privacy Policy ¦ Report Problem ¦ About ¦ Library ¦ Newsletter
WebmasterWorld is a Developer Shed Community owned by Jim Boykin.
© Webmaster World 1996-2014 all rights reserved