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9 % CTR Normal or Too high?
what's your CTR?
indias next no1




msg:1382565
 6:29 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

hi friends,
i like to know whether 9 % CTR (Page impressions) or
5 %( ad unit impressions) is normal or too high.

any one getting equal to 9 or above, whether the payment approved by google. kindly let me know

thanks

 

mmr82




msg:1382566
 6:55 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

even triple that is normal

benevolent001




msg:1382567
 7:52 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Untill the time every click is legal google has no problem.But you will soon realize that as your CTR reach around 20 your EPC would reduce...

incrediBILL




msg:1382568
 7:57 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

It my CTR was 9% I'd be in the UPS club.

Now shut up and smile.

wheelie34




msg:1382569
 8:18 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

@ benevolant001

my page impression CTR is on average 23 - 26% how does this effect EPC is that smart pricing?

on what do you base your comment please advise

cleanup




msg:1382570
 8:51 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)


In my opinion the CTR is inversely proportional to the content and quality of the site.

ie, if people land on a site with no content, a scaper site or whatever then the user has two choices, use the back button or click an ad.

So in the majority of cases where the CTR is 50& you
can be sure the site is crap or provides no useful, relevant content to the user.

My own CTR is 5%. I could easily increase that but at the end of the day I want people to buy things on my site not just click through to another.

Thats the difference between people making sites for adsense and people making real sites.

indias next no1




msg:1382571
 10:31 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

no, my web site is not a scrapper site, my web site is related to film industry and providing quality content to our visitors ( daily updation). i am not selling anything to our visitors, but providing paid membership, which i am getting as usual. i am also making money through CJ.

previously i placed only 1 ad unit, but now i have placed 2 ad unit with ad links also , that'swhy the CTR increased.

let me know whether 9 % CTR is too high or i can go ahead.

thanks

Marketing Guy




msg:1382572
 10:36 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

9% is fine. Don't be paranoid. :P

sailorjwd




msg:1382573
 11:02 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Cleanup,

While that sounds good on paper it isn't necessarily true. Some sites are truely informational sites with interesting content. Some folks need to do a lot of research before they buy a widget, or hire someone to build something for them. Or, like on a travel site, that may visit dozens of sites before they plunk down $5,000 for a trip. My widgets cost between $2500 and $25,000. It ain't like buying a CD.

I've been looking for rental properties in FLA for next winter and I've been searching for many hours and maybe 100 sites so far - that's a $15K widget that takes time and thought.

(anyone got a good rental property :)

cleanup




msg:1382574
 11:44 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sailor,
Yes, my widgets cost around that too.
(rentals but not in florida).

The only time I put my ads above the fold is when my properties are all full up for the year and so I am happy to send visitors off to my competitors.

The rest of the year, and especially early spring, I want them to stay! look around and email us.

peewhy




msg:1382575
 12:01 pm on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

My aggregate CTR today is 17.5%, yesterday was 12.8%, last 7 days 7.9% ... all the time 5.7%

spaceylacie




msg:1382576
 12:25 pm on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

My CTR does not change much on a daily basis. It stays within 1%, 5.5-6.5, with a few exceptions, two days this month I got slightly lower, 5.3 and 5.2, and one day higher, 6.7. I'd only be worried if one day I saw a much higher CTR than the norm.

Sites that are strictly informational, not selling anything at all, get higher CTRs, not just spammy sites. My sites have memberships too, and it's free to join.

sailorjwd




msg:1382577
 12:48 pm on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Cleanup,

Originally I had my ads on the left and/or right side of the page. With CTR around 5-8%.

Last summer I decided to see what this baby could do so I opened her up and put the ads smack dab in the visual hotspot, splitting the first paragraph or after it if it was small. Every page has the ad in the same place and same format so it is consistently obvious.

Now I get nervous if CTR falls below 15% and my daily goal is 20%

As I've said before - you gotta make it while it is still here. G has messed Adsense up so bad that I don't think it will exist in its present form 18 months from now. If someone else comes along with a 'reviewed-site' program for content ads then advertisers will be like geese going south for the winter.

I no longer have any compassion for Google and little compassion for the advertisers. I'm an advertiser too and engage in a constant battle with scraper sites and Adwords hijackers (hijacking adwords from G serps and displaying them live (no way to block them))

My site has been reviewed by G recently and received only one minor comment about adding a <br> before a handful of the ads.

OCSupertones




msg:1382578
 5:33 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Cleanup,

Just because someone can achieve a high CTR doesn't mean their sites are scrapper sites. My sites all are well above the number posted here, and I provide unique informational content...I don't sell anything except advertising space to google.

OddDog




msg:1382579
 6:50 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a poor quality site with an average 47% CTR.

I have a good quality article based content site with a 12% CTR.

I am in the process of applying the tricks learnt in the poor quality site to my nice site, and am expecting to see CTR go to the high 20īs.

javahava




msg:1382580
 8:44 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

wow; not sure what i'm doing wrong. i only get between 1.5-3% CTR (on a good day). this is across several sites - i use a leaderboard underneath the logo at top. thought this would be a fairly good place for the ads (unfortunately, a 250px rectangle won't fit quite right in the middle of my page as in many scrapers i've seen). are your high CTRs due to skyscrapers on the left hand side? some other placement?

peewhy




msg:1382581
 8:58 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'd rather of 1.5% of a large amount that 9.3% of next to nothing.

Jaunty Edward




msg:1382582
 10:04 am on Jun 14, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hi,

My CTR is not more than 2-3% but thats because I have not optimised the placement and colors of the site. At the moment I am concern for more visitor.

The point that I want to make is is sites like mine with:

1. Huge number of content pages (35,000+).

2. No links to other websites.

3. Not selling anything.

4. Gets people from search engines and show only what they want( search for widgetA gets then full details of widgetA)

5. Places a Ad Unit at the bottom of the text

6. Can target right keywords for adsense.

I think the CRT will be realy realy high.

I am almost there, if I can target keywords for all the pages my CTR will shoooot (hopefully)

Thanks

Swebbie




msg:1382583
 4:14 am on Jun 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

My overall Page CTR is in the high 20's. It varies a lot from site to site, even though they're all content-rich article sites in tight niches.

I think two things are key to increasing CTR:

1. Make each page's topic very very focused, so the ads that run are as well.

2. Don't put a lot of competing ads or links on a page (if you can avoid it).

My highly focused pages with the least "noise" to compete with AdSense ads do best. The only pages on any of my sites that have a lot going on are the main product pages, where I try to drive traffic internally through my internal links. That's where I make the hard sell. My article pages are mostly informational, pre-sell types. AdSense does well on those pages.

gunface




msg:1382584
 4:50 am on Jun 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

People - it's "scraper".

A "scrapper" is someone who enjoys fist fights...

Anyway, months ago I was lucky if my clickthrough rate went above 1% - I've since optimized placement and colors, and have increased it to an average of about 9% to 10%...

cleanup




msg:1382585
 6:02 am on Jun 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

Gunface,
Thanks that was annoying me too.
I see "scraped" used often when people mean "scrapped" too!

Sailor,
I guess I have been too concerned with the "look and feel" and "user experience" to dare put the ads in the sweet spot and with different colors etc.

I take the point about informational sites having higher CTR but from what I see on the net they are the exception rather than the rule.

Anyway thanks, I have experimented a bit with my ads and have seen a 50% increase in CTR.

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