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Financial Potential!
Where AdSense and other Site Income Can Put You
Buzliteyear




msg:1328652
 4:25 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Howdy,

This post is for two different audiences.

Audience #1
First, for those who take this program seriously. Between AdSense, Affiliate programs, banner advertisers, etc., your potential income is really limitless. Below is a chart that I use as a motivator. I hope you like it.

Audience #2
For those who continue to argue that it is okay to click on your own ads and other silliness, you are playing with fire. This forum is filled with webmasters who treated AdSense as a toy and got banned. Below is what you could be losing if you continue to push the edge.

Finally, these statistics do not take into account bank interest which would make the figures rise dramatically.


Projected AdSense and Other Site Income

$50 Per Month Income
1 Year $600
5 Years $3,000
10 Years $6,000
15 Years $9,000
20 Years $12,000

$100 Per Month Income
1 Year $1,200
5 Years $6,000
10 Years $12,000
15 Years $18,000
20 Years $24,000

$200 Per Month Income
1 Year $2,400
5 Years $12,000
10 Years $24,000
20 Years $36,000

$500 Per Month Income
1 Year $6,000
5 Years $30,000
10 Years $60,000
15 Years $90,000
20 Years $120,000

$1,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $12,000
5 Years $60,000
10 Years $120,000
15 Years $180,000
20 Years $240,000

$2,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $24,000
5 Years $120,000
10 Years $240,000
15 Years $360,000
20 Years $480,000

$5,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $60,000
5 Years $300,000
10 Years $600,000
15 Years $900,000
20 Years $1,200,000

$10,000 Per Month Income (UPS Club)
1 Year $120,000
5 Years $600,000
10 Years $1,200,000
15 Years $1,800,000
20 Years $2,400,000

$20,000 Per Month Income
1 Year $240,000
5 Years $1,200,000
10 Years $2,400,000
15 Years $3,600,000
20 Years $4,800,000

Achieving wealth on the Internet is an absolute reality. Stay motivated, stay smart, and don't risk losing it all by playing games.

While I am not there yet, I am certainly on my way, and I see the potential. Good luck to all!

 

spaceylacie




msg:1328653
 4:29 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Now, if I just don't spend any money over the next 20 years, I'll be a millionarre!

jdhuk




msg:1328654
 4:40 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good luck to all!

And to you to ;-)

They say "don't bite the hand that feeds you" to true.

Interesting list, food for thought.

dutch_dude




msg:1328655
 4:41 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Lol, don't think Adsense or even Google will be around anymore in 20 years. It's an eternity for the Internet.

But it's sure a lot of money, especially when you have it as a second income and put it aside for later :)

Buzliteyear




msg:1328656
 5:14 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Lol, don't think Adsense or even Google will be around anymore in 20 years. It's an eternity for the Internet.

You are probably right, but PPC and other income sources will continue to evolve and will probably still be around in one form or another.

Hopefully!

sailorjwd




msg:1328657
 6:31 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

Go a little further so I can see my chart :)

Zygoot




msg:1328658
 9:36 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)

>Finally, these statistics do not take into account bank interest which would make the figures rise dramatically.

Or instead of putting it onto your bank account you could also invest it to gain even more.

But personally I think AdSense earnings aren't something on which you can count for lets say 10-20 years. There are lots of things that can happen to totally diminish your site(s) earnings.

fischermx




msg:1328659
 1:26 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)


There are lots of things that can happen to totally diminish your site(s) earnings.

Just don't depend of free traffic.
Get used to pay sometimes to be visited as well, so you don't depend on SERPS and Google algos.

buckworks




msg:1328660
 1:35 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

This clearly makes the point that someone who cheats to gain extra nickels and dimes in the short term might be throwing away more than they ever dreamed.

eyeinthesky




msg:1328661
 1:40 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

You are probably right, but PPC and other income sources will continue to evolve and will probably still be around in one form or another.

Hopefully!

No doubt about the evolution theory (Darwin will agree with you, too).

But the projected earnings (up to 20 years) will not be accurate anymore.

So I would say don't project too much into the future but have the confidence (and faith) that you will make it (whatever that means to you) - no matter what happens!

jetteroheller




msg:1328662
 6:37 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Lol, don't think Adsense or even Google will be around anymore in 20 years. It's an eternity for the Internet.
But it's sure a lot of money, especially when you have it as a second income and put it aside for later :)

My first big site from 1997 reached middle 1998 the usual traffic of 25 thousand visitors a month.

Since 7 years stable in this range.

Big search engines had been coming and going, Yahoo changed default search engine several times - Infoseek, Altavista, Inktomi, Google - traffic also here stable.

So there is no reason to think, that everything will be different.

twist




msg:1328663
 6:59 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Since were having fun with numbers,

Lets say you stick $100,000 in a 10 year CD at %5 compound interest
You get $62,889.46 in interest

Lets say you are a credit card company,
$100,000 at %25 interest over 10 years of lending,
You get $831,322.57 in interest

You sell your home for $100,000 at %6 interest for 30 years,
You get $574,349.12 for your $100,000 home
on the other hand, if you buy a $100,000 home

Lets say you have 1 million dollars which you keep in a CD that makes %5 and you just scrape the extra off the top every year, you make $50,000 a year doing absolutely nothing!

I wonder if those companies that tell you that you must have good credit and be in constant debt are they themselves in debt. I have no credit cards and couldn't be happier :)

mike73




msg:1328664
 8:08 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

yeah, I don't get why anyone would want to cheat and click there own ads. I want my site to generate income on its own, I don't want to sit there and click all day, or whatever they do.

SeK612




msg:1328665
 9:51 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

Essentially these are just numbers though. I don't doubt that some can shoot financially thanks to websites and the internet, realistically though it's pretty hard when the income depends on a lot of variables which can hit income hard :)

jetteroheller




msg:1328666
 10:36 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have no credit cards and couldn't be happier :)

How do You pay for hosting?
How do You pay Your domains?
How do You pay at the gasoline station?

I think living without credit card is very uncomfortable.

peewhy




msg:1328667
 10:47 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I can add to this longevity;

My bank manage told me that they count internet based businesses in 'dog years' because of the high collapse rate, one year in the internet industry is equal to seven 'normal years'.

I've been promoting and marketing websites since 1996, that's almost 70 dog years!

twist




msg:1328668
 5:56 pm on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

How do You pay for hosting?
How do You pay Your domains?
How do You pay at the gasoline station?

Debit card

moneyraker




msg:1328669
 6:19 pm on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have an even better suggestion. Do not spend a single cent of your monthly earnings, and every month you reinvest everything to build new content. Assuming that every $100 you spend to generate content will give you an extra $5 every month, then here's how the numbers would look like:

Month 1: 100
Month 2: 205
Month 3: 420.25
Month 8: 15215.17765
Month 11: 131080.6573
Month 13: 550866.4624
Month 14: 1129276.248
Month 16: 2315016.308
Month 17: 4745783.432
Month 18: 9728856.036
Month 19: 19944154.87
Month 20: 40885517.49

Yup, that's $40M in 20 months.

But nobody can do it, because greed always wins over logic, i.e., nobody can resist buying a ferrari by month 13. :)

dutch_dude




msg:1328670
 4:53 am on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)

Assuming that every $100 you spend to generate content will give you an extra $5 every month

Thats a very interesting idea. Wouldn't know how one would easily get good niche content though.

But I'll certainly think about it. thanks for planting that seed in my brain ;)

One thing that may ruin this idea is taxes.. Especially here in the Netherlands we get taxed to death. :(

Alioc




msg:1328671
 5:36 pm on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Moneyraker, I'm not a math genius but I can't see any spendings in your numbers. It exponentially keeps growing without any loss so where's the money you spend every month? OK, you reinvest but that's a type of expense too and that's why nobody can do it. Because there's no such thing as "free energy". Give 1 get 2 for free and you got 3 in total... no way.

Although the numbers are against the nature of physics, the idea works and used by banks all around the world. :)

[edited by: Alioc at 5:50 pm (utc) on July 1, 2005]

oddsod




msg:1328672
 5:48 pm on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

dutch_dude, we in the UK feel your pain. As I've argued here before a typical self employed small businessman pays 90% in tax. It's cleverly disguised so you don't feel the pinch but VAT + employers' NI + employees' NI + 40% PAYE = 80%. Add on things like business rates etc and it's around 90% for most people. And that's without adding on the "occasional" taxes like Stamp Duty on property, without adding compliance costs (Maternity Pay/Data Protection Registrar/Credit Licence etc) and without adding in various other subtle taxes.

So you could be earning $10,000 a month but don't expect to be a millionaire soon.

moneyraker




msg:1328673
 6:08 pm on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

[Moneyraker, I'm not a math genius but I can't see any spendings in your numbers. It exponentially keeps growing without any loss so where's the money you spend every month? OK, you reinvest but that's a type of expense too and that's why nobody can do it. Because there's no such thing as "free energy". Give 1 get 2 for free and you got 3 in total... no way.]

Well, you are correct, Alioc. That's the problem with Excel, it tends to speed up the number-crunching, at the expense of 'thinking' on the part of the user. I'll try to do the Math again and see if it will still turn up 'mind-boggling.'

Swebbie




msg:1328674
 7:23 pm on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'll rain on the parade a bit...

You have to factor in the effects of inflation. If you don't grow your income beyond the rate of inflation, you're running in place. Luckily for those of us in America, inflation has been historically low for years now. But that won't always be the case. It's one reason investments like CD's are virtually worthless for anything beyond protecting what you've got.

OK, having said that, the best thing I've seen in this thread is the idea of taking some of what you earn from AdSense and popping it back into content creation. Once you figure out a system for developing web sites/pages that steadily increase your earnings, duplicate it faster by paying others to write for you. If you can build one site a month now, make it 2 per month by spending a couple hundred bucks on content. It will build on itself then and you're biggest headache will be managing it all. But that sure is a headache worth having when you see your income start ramping up so much faster.

Bddmed




msg:1328675
 7:44 pm on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

Moneyraker

So when I spend $100 the next month I have $100+$100+$5=$205. That's 105% interest in one month! I just wished you would tell me how to do that in real life ;)

incrediBILL




msg:1328676
 8:50 pm on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

My spread sheet has a few more columns than Buzliteyear's ;)

I have plan where I want to be for the entire year, where my revenue started and what growth I expect to achieve. Some things actually turn out to do better or worse as the months go buy and I adjust the future months accordingly based on trends and I track what actually happens and record my progress.

Looks something like this with JAN - DEC columns across the page.

AdSense Plan $#*$!xx.xx
AdSense Actual $xxxxx.xx

Direct Sponsors Plan $xxxxx.xx
Direct Sponsors Actual $xxxxx.xx

CJ Plan $xxxxx.xx
CJ Actual $xxxxx.xx

LinkShare Plan $xxxxx.xx
LinkShare Actual $xxxxx.xx

Amazon Plan $xxxxx.xx
Amazon Actual $xxxxx.xx

Affiliate #1 Plan $xxxxx.xx
Affiliate #1 Actual $xxxxx.xx

Affiliate #2 Plan $xxxxx.xx
Affiliate #2 Actual $xxxxx.xx

etc.

Total Month Revenue Plan $xxxxx.xx
Total Month Revenue Actual $xxxxx.xx

It's a little more complicated than this obviously and expenses are there too but those are boring and static things like web hosting, phones, broadband, taxes, yawn.

Just to give you an idea of how well this planning helped me project where I was going with my site's growth it's now midyear and I'm 46% of the annual plan total, it's still a little under but not bad, but I'm at the 51% mark of where I thought I would be with AdSense for the year.

It never hurts to sit down and look at where you are and where you want to be and then put a plan in place to make that happen and execute it!

moneyraker




msg:1328677
 11:33 pm on Jul 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

[That's 105% interest in one month! I just wished you would tell me how to do that in real life ;)]

Well, I was probably thinking about gambling the night I ran those numbers, wherein you get to keep your initial investment on top of all the earnings. (LOL)

Seriously speaking, I rerun the numbers and got disappointing results for the 5% ROI assumed in the example. 15% gave me a more motivating scenario.

Thus, if I were to reinvest in more content, every article that costs $10 must generate $1.50 (15% instead of 5%) of revenue the following month. At an EPC of, say, $0.15, you need 10 clicks per month. At a CTR of 3%, you need an article that gets opened 334 times a month, or 11 times a day.

Conclusion: an article that's read 11X a day should be the minimum level of quality for content to make it worthwhile money-wise.

Alioc




msg:1328678
 12:29 am on Jul 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

Here's another one: who wants to solve? I feel lazy at the moment. ;)

What if you keep investing in targetted traffic rather than content? Will this provide a better ROI? If not, is it the right balance between content and traffic investments that will result in optimum ROI? And finally, if so, what percent on which one should we invest?

We all know that billions of factors affect these things. So, just play with your own -sample- numbers.

Gargen




msg:1328679
 6:29 am on Jul 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

i make about 15 bucks a month, but just started (hey it pays for itself atleast)

ann




msg:1328680
 2:09 pm on Jul 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Speaking of raining on parades. It seems fastclick now, officially, has rolled out contextual (text ads). Just visited FC and a big popup informed us of the oppertunity...further reading tells me that I must check with google for "contract terms".

I shot off an email and told them not to use them on my account. The first one shows up and FC gets whacked!

Ann

universetoday




msg:1328681
 3:34 pm on Jul 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

Having a plan like this is great. I like incrediBILL's kind of strategy. It really focusses your efforts and keeps everything moving towards your long-term goals.

The more specific you can make your plan, the more likely you'll be to achieve it.

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