| 1:00 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Bill; I'm seeing about the same thing.
BTW... the adlinks thing seems to be doing more than it's share of the heavy lifting.
Hopefully it'll keep going. :)
| 1:04 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
The update doesn't seem to be quite done yet though.
I usually get a significant bump in traffic during updates, and that's helping a fair bit. If history repeats itself I'll see about half the bump disappear when the update settles down.
| 1:52 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
my eCPM is about 30% higher too - maybe they've tweaked the smart pricing algo a bit again?
OTOH - it could be all the fresh blood in the contextual advertising pool - after every major update there are a flood of advertisers, which increases competition and drives up CPC - good news for publishers with traffic.
| 2:12 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Yup, I'm seeing something similar. Ecpm up about 30% and earnings have improved.
| 2:17 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I'm seeing the same, maybe a bit lower since I've added pages in May and June. April was my best month ever, then something weird happened on May 5. I hear so many stories of gloom and lost traffic/earnings though that just to stay even is a blessing.
| 3:04 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Okay, you guys/gals are making me sick! :-P
| 3:54 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
My earnings are already what they were at the end of May. I have had to resort to some PPC to drive traffic to my best pages thanks to Bourbon but even after that cost is subtracted I am doing very, very well. I won't bid more than a nickel if I am driving traffic to AdSense.
| 4:15 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
incrediBill, I'm up about the same this month, and May was my best month ever. Thanks to you, I put one AdLinks block on my home page (for most of the increase) and also unblocked a few advertisers.
I'm hoping for my first $500 month, which I know is small potatoes for many on this board, but would be a nice result for my very part-time work.
| 5:08 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Earnings are way up for me too; first in May things went from 10-12 bucks a day to 22 bucks a day (I have only like 1800 page impressions/day). Then in June so far, I an averaging 35 a day - with just a bit more traffic. Overall, I am fairly happy, since getting 35-40 bucks a day out of a paltry 1800 page impressions a day is not too-too bad -- now, if I had 4-5000 page imps a day, I would be smokin'.
I will be happy if I could just average like 75-80 a day. Bourbon must have had an impact as more traffic comes from Google since around May 5th.
Hunterdown: I think a much bigger challenge with Adsense is getting a site to go from initially earning 0 up to 500 dollars a month, than it is to get a site to go from 500 up to 1000 a month.
| 6:18 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
At the very end of April my income took a dip and people kinda thought my problem might've been the start of the May vacations in europe as I seem to get a lot of income from across the pond. The the next week it <gasp> dipped below $100/day for a week and I almost fell off my chair.
That's when I went nuts and put AdLinks on the site, shuffled things around, and it came back better than ever.
That seems to have salvaged May and June we shall see where we end :)
Guess I'm not a fan of the "ride it out" philosophy.
[edited by: incrediBILL at 6:23 am (utc) on June 11, 2005]
| 6:20 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I dont know why when everyone goes up, i come down :( .
I was about 15% up in May and I was happy. June is down to a lot till date. My daily earings is about 25% less than those in May.
| 6:22 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I changed starting June my layout.
CTR 20% up
EPC 25% down
Impressions 10% up
After all, little bit more than in May
When I would have my current Clicks combined with my EPC froum June last year....
| 6:43 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
After putting the new Adlinks on, I am now about 30% up on May, but about 8% up on April
| 10:32 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I changed the location of my main adblock and added adlinks (again after reading Bill's post - thanks Bill) - and also changed the (not visual) design of the pages in my main site. Result 75% increase in Adsense revenue - clicks seem to be worth more at the moment but I cannot reasonably attibute that to any one particular thing...
| 10:44 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Well, this is new and different.
I'm up in the wee hours (3am) and Friday, which is particularly sucky in general closed on a high note and the early morning Sat which tends to be slow is cranking at an incredible pace.
My first update after midnight was over $10 for a handful of clicks, almost spit gin across the room when I saw that.
I dont want to sleep now as I'll miss this astonishing AdSense day unfold :)
| 10:52 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Hi, I cannot get the links to work if I have the rectangle on the page. I have tried on high content pages. I like the links, but afraid to drop the rectangle which does produce income. My site is just creeping out of the sandbox. Could this be the reason, or are you all members of the preferred Adsense and that is maybe why you can run multiple Adsense on a page? Any ideas? I would like to use the links because you all say they increase income, but I really like my rectangles which are blended and in cellspacing frame at top center just under page titles. Is there any method for me to add links, please? Thanks for any input.
| 11:35 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I think one factor is Adwords folks using the negative site list more. I know I am. I've got about 150 sites excluded and add several per day. My CTR and CPM are up a little and my cost of advertising is down about 15%.
I look at my logs and so many times I see 4-6 clicks on Adwords from same IP same website during 2-5 minute time span - poof - they won't be clicking on my ads anymore.
This leaves more money for the few of you who aren't scrappy scrapers :)
| 11:46 am on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
you don't have to be a premium publisher to run normal adunits and adlinks on the same page.
If I were you I'd try it out again - could be the position on the page was causing a problem. On my main site I have a main nav element to other site pages on the left hand side - I placed adlinks directly below this. Ads display fine, are on topic and bring extra clicks/cash to the page.
| 12:18 pm on Jun 11, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I am seeing lower earnings this month, mostly due to lower # of impressions. I guess my sites are sensitive to seasonal patterns- in ohther words i'm thinking everyone is out enjoying the good weather and off on vacation.
Anyone else seeing this?
| 1:12 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Jenkers: Thanks, I will try again in different places on the page. Thanks for your encouragement.
| 2:01 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I wish some WW member who is a sociologist would comment on these "my earnings are up", "my earnings are down" threads. Post it and they will come.
The Adsense program is diverse and dynamic. There are always people having better or worse months. There is no grand conspiracy.
By the way Oswald shot Kennedy on his own by himself. Crop circles are made by humans. My cousin dated a girl who looked like bigfoot's sister, so I guess at least that one's real.
Oh and last month was up for me, this month is down a little. My overall traffic and SERP's ranking is the same.
| 2:16 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Broadway... while i agree that the vast majority of these adsense-up and adsense-down threads are due to fluctuations that are unique to a particular publisher or a particular niche, that does not preclude the possibility that there is a systemic change.
google adsense is one of the few business agreements where one party is left surprisingly in the dark. specifically, publishers are not told what percent google is taking for themselves.
considering that google is a public company and has to answer to its shareholders, i would not be surprised at all if they started to play with the percentages when it was advantageous to them. that could include increasing payouts to certain publishers.
adsense is still a new phenomenon, and i think google is still figuring things out.
whenever i see one of these threads, i roll my eyes too, but i think in general it is a good thing for publishers to be open with their findings so at least we have the chance of spotting some trends.
| 4:57 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Did anyone say there was a conspiracy?
Just discussing trends with no need to be snide, pretty uncalled for really.
| 6:14 am on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
This month has been a rollercoaster for me. From one of the best days ever, to one of the worst. Today's (Saturday's) traffic is somehow worth 220% that of three days earlier in terms of EPC. CTR remains the same.
| 8:39 pm on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Just returned from China this evening UK time and I'm busy removing Adsense from many sites.
Although MY visitor numbers and page impressions are climbing nicely, according to Adsense they are decreasing, so much so that there is a 100% discrepancy between G and myself for page impressions on Friday 10th.
Earnings are now down 40% from 2 months ago and I have NOT been affected by Bourbon, I am still #1 for all optimised terms.
I still maintain that whatever happened on 05/05/05 has done this and I now feel the only way to rectify it is to remove Adsense possibly from all sites.
I need a beer to think about this tonight but will it really matter since at this rate of decrease nothing worth having is going to be left within a couple of months!
| 9:02 pm on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
We have seen the same thing. The first 11 days of June were record breakers for us, but the 12th has been brutal. I hope that it's just awaiting a burst of stats.
| 9:30 pm on Jun 12, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Well, my site is on the bottom of the totem pole, with almost no G. traffic because just out of sandbox, and impressions are down today, but CTR and commissions are up. I plan to simply hang in for the long ride. My ads are in the heat spot and blended. This is sort of like the stock market, up one day, down the next. Got to keep your eyes on the light at the end of the tunnel. I am going to ride Google's waves. July will bring my first direct deposit. Looks like I will not make the minimum for June, but I am building pages every day. It would be GREAT if we could know WHICH products are selling, but G. obviously wants us to put all the ads up, not just the top earners. Can't blame them, they have to serve the advertisers first. And the advertisers are doing searches to see if their ads are showing and where. You would too if you were a G. advertiser. I am retired, I can ride it out. Fills my days...hopefully in a couple of years, it will fill my pockets as well...(smile)
| 2:14 pm on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Hunterdown: I think a much bigger challenge with Adsense is getting a site to go from initially earning 0 up to 500 dollars a month, than it is to get a site to go from 500 up to 1000 a month. |
Why do you say that? I'm interested to hear this because my site started out in the 200/month range, from the day I put AdSense throughout my site. I've only recently got above 400/month, after building up earnings from a low of $136 in Sept. of last year. So I'm wondering how much higher I can reasonably expect to go.
My site, by the way, is even nichier and low-traffic than yours. The question for me is, what is the ceiling beyond which I can not go unless I add significant amounts of new content or increase traffic? Perhaps a question others have too. But I suspect that the only way to find out what the ceiling is is to keep trying to bump into it.
| 3:53 pm on Jun 13, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|The question for me is, what is the ceiling beyond which I can not go unless I add significant amounts of new content or increase traffic? |
Adsense is a moving (and many says, an increasingly difficult) target, that maintaining your status quo (content and traffic the same) may mean a decline in revenues. I don't know this to be true, but I am scared NOT to add traffic or content for fear that the Adsense income may decline.
So our strategy is to always think of ways to add content and increase our traffic, and so far it worked as we see our revenues increasing month after month albeit at a slower growth pace. In our case, the cumulative growth rate of our site's Adsense revenue since we started in June 2003 (computing from our first full month of July 2003) is 21%. We saw a burst of growth in the first few months (from $500 in our first month to $2500 in the second month) when we were tinkering with layouts and all, but it slowed to single digit in the last few months.
There may be no ceiling - as long as you keep on working on your site. Sure, it is sometimes discouraging that you seem to work so hard adding new content on your site only to see your Adsense revenues marginally increasing. Sort of like the law of diminishing marginal returns at work.
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