Rodney

msg:1327300 | 1:41 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
All three can work together on the same site, depending on what the site is about and how it's structured. I don't think it's necessary to focus on just one (or even a good idea based on the recurring theme of "diversifying your income" to avoid putting all your eggs in one basket).
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ypsites

msg:1327301 | 2:02 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I am curious about the answer, though -- I have lots of pages on my site where I can really only take advantage of one. Plus, there is the matter of the labor involved. So, if you had to pick one, which would it be? I ask also because until recently I would have said Adsense, hands down -- because of the ease of use, the responsiveness to changes in the content (no intervention required), plus, most important, the ability to monetize relatively low traffic pages. But over the last few months, my Adsense revenue has dropped so much, I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing by emphasizing it. So ... any takers on the original question?
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max_mm

msg:1327302 | 2:38 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| I ask also because until recently I would have said Adsense, hands down -- because of the ease of use, the responsiveness to changes in the content (no intervention required), plus, most important, the ability to monetize relatively low traffic pages. But over the last few months, my Adsense revenue has dropped so much, I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing by emphasizing it. |
| I use both, Adsense and ClickBank on my pages. My Adsense revenue too has just been nothing but down hill affair over the last few months and i am slowly but surly removing the code from many of my pages (3 cents per click? thanks but no thanks!) my adsense account is down from making $150 per day to a miserable $28-30 if I’m lucky. ClickBank brings in a very nice income (paying up to 75% per sale, and most products sell quite well). I use a ClickBank script named cbprosense to generate the product feeds on my pages. I started using this script approx 4 months ago and it is working great since. It sure helps bringing home a considerable number of sales to cover for my lost Adsense revenue. [edited by: max_mm at 2:48 am (utc) on June 8, 2005]
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incrediBILL

msg:1327303 | 2:47 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
AdSense hands down no contest.
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max_mm

msg:1327304 | 2:54 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
AdSense hands down no contest. |
| Well maybe for you incrediBILL. I have no doubt that many other publishers beg to differ nowadays. You are right it used to be great but then something happened approx end of Feb and it has been going down hill fast for many publishers since. It is no longer the best thing out there, unfortunately :(. Simply too many $0 to $0.03 per clicks lately not to mention the negetive effect it may have on your G index rankings.
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badtigger

msg:1327305 | 3:33 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
Actually max_mm, I just looked at that CBprosene script, and it sounds great. It has all the things that I wish Adsense had, like particularly: Publishers set the minimum commission rate Unique access tool of targeted keywords The only question I have is that since this is contextual advertsing as well, would it be a violation of Gooogle's TOS to put it and Adsense on the same page?
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Buzliteyear

msg:1327306 | 3:50 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I agree that dollar for dollar, more will be made with AdSense. To this day, I cannot see how guys are making money with Amazon. My site keeps pumping sales to them, and the commission is pennies. However, I should state that I am extremely well read on AdSense. I cannot say the same for Amazon.
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incrediBILL

msg:1327307 | 4:19 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| Well maybe for you incrediBILL. I have no doubt that many other publishers beg to differ nowadays. |
| Guess I can only comment on my on experience as my Amazon used to pay really well before they changed the compensation structure and it's been going down down down ever since as Amazon turns to crap while AdSense keeps going up month by month paying a 6 digit annual income.
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max_mm

msg:1327308 | 4:52 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| The only question I have is that since this is contextual advertsing as well, would it be a violation of Gooogle's TOS to put it and Adsense on the same page? |
| Adsense TOS is vouge so I’m not really sure. There is no conflict (in my opinion). The Clickbank cbprosense feeds look distinctly different to the Adsense format. Content sensing can be turned off by specifying your own keywords. So I don’t realy see how this script is different to any other RSS data feeds (adsense TOS wise). It simply display a bullet type list of ClickBank products linked with your own affiliate nickname. It is not an ad network by itself. And to be honest. My adsense income reached such unbelievable lows I don’t really give a squat. One thing I hate doing is helping companies with obvious anti competitive trade practices. Adsense TOS or not, your call really. [edited by: max_mm at 5:01 am (utc) on June 8, 2005]
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max_mm

msg:1327309 | 4:59 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
| Guess I can only comment on my on experience as my Amazon used to pay really well before they changed the compensation structure and it's been going down down ever since as Amazon turns to crap while AdSense keeps going up month by month paying a 6 digit annual income. |
| My experience with Amazon has been the same. I said good bye to Amazon once Adsense launched. Pennines indeed with the sour feeling (on many occasions) that my book sales are not being tracked properly (lol, $0.40 per month at times. Yea right). Re adsense 6 digits: Sounds very impressive. Could you please elaborate a little on the nature of your web sites, size and daily impressions. Perhaps it would help in determining what i might be doing wrong.
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ypsites

msg:1327310 | 5:12 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
max_mm -- I'm with you about Adsense. I used to fantasize about getting into the UPS club ... now I pray to get a check every month. I noticed something that might be related the other day. My product is actually a print publication with an online counterpart. I was in a new client's office the other day, and I wanted to walk her through our site. We logged in and every single page with Adsense was showing one of their (highly unattractive) charity ads. I was blown away. I never see charity ads when I log in from my own machine! Still trying to figure out what is up with this ... but can't help but wonder if it has something to do with the drop in my earnings from March or so to now to about 1/4 or less of what they were. I realize I am getting a little off track from the original question here ... but thought you (or others) might have some feedback on this incident!
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jetteroheller

msg:1327311 | 5:13 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I do not know Clickbank. But AdSense and Amazon are really not comparable. I have Amazon as PSA replacement and below my contact form will take years until my first 100.-EUR.
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max_mm

msg:1327312 | 5:30 am on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
ypsites, Nope, no charity ads. I checked my site on two other systems (7 web sites) and all i can see are the same ads that once used to pay anywhere from $1.50-$5.00 now paying $0 - 0.05. Why? i have no idea and I’m starting to feel a little cheated lately. I tried blocking all them eBay ads, made no difference. I decided i no longer put any time into it. The only time i am going to put is for removing the ads and replace by better paying alternatives. G adsense no longer cut it for me so i am slowly but surly showing them the door.
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wrgvt

msg:1327313 | 5:10 pm on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
I run both Amazon and AdSense on my web pages. Amazon trumps AdSense for me. It's not even close. Then again, I'm not running Amazon banner ads, but detailed information about products with links to buy from Amazon.
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mmr82

msg:1327314 | 5:29 pm on Jun 8, 2005 (gmt 0) |
The question should be Adsense Vs Clickbank I don't even use Amazon as a PSA replacement!
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