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iframe - is this cheating?
2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 6:18 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

check this out
two pages
one in english approved by g, on in croatian
what if i put iframe code on croatian one, and source on the one approved, I could start showing g ads on not approved page?
is this cheating?
will google find out? and if, how?
i don't think it could find out..

 

spaceylacie

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Msg#: 6927 posted 6:22 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I've gotten an email from the Google Team that went something like this:

We just visited your page www.SomeObscurePageOfMine_NotOnTheDomainOriginallyApproved.com and noticed that is was violating TOS. Please fix this ASAP.

Google knows all!

mblair

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Msg#: 6927 posted 6:26 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Considering the consequences of being banned from AdSense, I really wouldn't risk it in such a way. As a general rule, if you are not comfortable sending it to Google to ask them if it is OK, then I woudln't do it...

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 6:29 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

man..
and my page..that isn't approved ( stupidity..it's in croatian )..has got 100 000's of page views daily..
one day..in inframe..a can make 10's $$..
i've tried to translate one page, and link it from the main index page ( that's still that one, not approved page ), and i have put adsense code in that translated page (in english )..and it won't show ads?
why is that?
90% of the page is english..

main index.php links to index_eng.php by text link, and it won't show ads..

if my page was approved by google, would it then be violating TOS? by putting my blog in iframe and loading it on my not approved page?

thanx guys..

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 6927 posted 6:43 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

let's recap.

a) You have a site in Croatian that was not approved for Adsense.

b) You got Adsense approved for another site

c) You figure if you insert the adsense ads via an iframe, some percentage of the Croatian site's visitors will click on the ads anyhow, even though they're in English.

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Are you really asking if that's cheating, or are you asking if you can get away with it: "i don't think it could find out"

I say go for it, the worst that could happen is that you'd be permanently banned from the Adsense program, and none of your sites that had Adsense on them will ever be allowed in the program again.

Roadkill

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:13 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you have to ask if its cheating... well it probably is.

As to how they would find out... I think you just may have told them. I would guess based on various posts, that it would be smart of google to monitor this forum.

Go for longevity. Play it clean.

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:17 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

i have never mentioned the url, and i will never mention it..

u all say that I don't do it?
that's it's cheating?
i know..that a lot of visitors would click on links, although they are in english..

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:18 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

i'm just asking, don't get mad guys..

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:21 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

if adsense is showing ads on approved page, why if i pase some content form that page, to page not approved by google, ( it's all in english ), why adsense won't show ads?
i don't get that one..
although displaying ads in this way would be similar to iframe solution..

HitProf

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:34 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

uhm... is not approved the same as disapproved (in this case)? Or did you simply not ask? If the latter, then why bother with iframes?

You can simply paste you AdSense code into non approved sites, as long as they comply with the TOS.

If a site has been disapproved, I wouldn't take the risk of loosing the account.

sailorjwd

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:39 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have a quick answer for you.

If you happen to be displaying my Adwords ads then I'll eventually be taking a look at your page and if it offends my sense of fairness then I'll likely drop a dime on you.

buckworks

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:40 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

a lot of visitors would click on links, although they are in english

Think about it: such clicks would be worth little or nothing to the advertiser who pays for them.

Don't try to cheat. In the long term you can gain a lot by using Adsense the way it was intended; don't throw it away by short-sighted greed. Play it clean.

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:51 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

it's not approved cuz it's not in ENGLISH..
i don't wanna brake TOS in any way..

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:55 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

> as long as they comply with the TOS.

Putting Adsense on sites that are written in non-approved languages (Croatian, for example) is a violation of the TOS.

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 7:58 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

i know..
but what i don't get..
is that i translated the main page ( pasted the content form approved site ), and now..90% of the page is in Eng..
and it still won't show..
nothing..
white space..
why is that?

how come, in croatia, there are some sites..in croatian that show paid ads?

activeco

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Msg#: 6927 posted 9:26 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

2PACroatia: Sticky sent.

Nitrous



 
Msg#: 6927 posted 9:48 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>>Putting Adsense on sites that are written in non-approved languages (Croatian, for example) is a violation of the TOS<<<

No it isnt. I have an email from google saying so, but warning it may display psa adds or no adds.

Nitrous



 
Msg#: 6927 posted 9:49 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can copy it here if anyone is interested. And if google dont mind - would they?

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 9:55 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

copy it

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 10:00 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

this is crazy..

watch out for this one..

i've got that one page translated on my local language portal, that doesn't show ads, right?

i've copied the HTML and pasted it in blog, and there, it shows ads..

please, someone explain this to me..

Jay27

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Msg#: 6927 posted 10:00 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

For sure it's cheating! G asks everybody to select the option of framed pages when they use frames which means they want to show ads relevant to the real texts. If your visitors are not english language, how your traffic is useful for the advertisers? How do you think if I make some free porn pages with millions of visitors and do the same thing?!
It's so easy for G to find out what you are doing with their scripts, so it's risky.
The best thing is to make an english version for your site. Though you must encourage your visitors to go there somehow.

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 10:05 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

and what about that what this guy said, that isn't against TOS to put code on page with different language?

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 6927 posted 10:12 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Language
The AdSense ad code for content-based ads may be placed on pages with content primarily in any of our supported languages.

[google.com...]

If your site is *primarily* in Croatian, you cannot currently put adsense on it.

> and what about that what this guy said

Well, as far as I know "this guy" is not the final arbiter of Adsense T&C - Google is. If you think what you want to do is not spelled out clearly in the guidelines, contact Google and get a specific answer as it relates to your site directly from them.

Jay27

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Msg#: 6927 posted 10:16 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

If your site is *primarily* in Croatian, you cannot currently put adsense on it.

As I remember, if you make a subdirectory (eg: english.themaindomain.com) it's considered as an independent site, but for sure it's better to ensure before using this way.

Jay27

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Msg#: 6927 posted 10:20 pm on May 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Sorry; I just noted! It says the pages with another primary language, not the site, so it must be ok even if you use it without subdomain.

HitProf

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Msg#: 6927 posted 8:37 am on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Putting Adsense on sites that are written in non-approved languages (Croatian, for example) is a violation of the TOS.

No longer, if Jenstar is right:

[webmasterworld.com...]
Language
In an odd change, the line Ads must not be displayed on any page with content primarily in an unsupported language has been removed.

But better to check latest TOS for yourself.

PatrickDeese

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Msg#: 6927 posted 8:45 am on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

> But better to check latest TOS for yourself.

Msg #23 is a direct cut & paste from the Adsense policies page, that I got from the Google site today - where did you think I got it - archive.org?

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 9:29 am on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

hahahah archive.org hahahha
i can't undetstand why this page i've translated won't show ads?
maybe because it's not crowled..

how do you think g would find out..if you use iframe..and point to other page..that has approved content and language, and display only ads on other page..

i don't wanna lose my acc..so...
play it clean

grandpa

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Msg#: 6927 posted 9:47 am on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

i can't undetstand why this page i've translated won't show ads?

You do realize that if you are copying your ad code directly from a non-framed page to a framed-page it may not work? You need to add something so Google knows the ads are to be displayed in a frame. Check with AdSense for specifics, I don't generally use frames and don't personally know. But I have seen the checkbox on the AdSense site hundreds of times.

2PACroatia

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Msg#: 6927 posted 10:15 am on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

i ain't displaying it in frames..
in tables..

so, i don't see that as a problem..
why doesn't it show?

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