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PIN do they ever arrive?
Is it another commission retention ploy?
peewhy




msg:1445720
 6:28 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm looking forward to receiving my first payment then I get the message 'payment on hold' and the information based on the fact Google has sent me a PIN.

It almost seems to know that I'm not going to get that PIN before a specified date because it has a 'panic button' disable until after that date.

That date came, the 'panic button' became enabled and I pressed it ... so now I'm waiting for another month.

I'm wondering if anyone received their PIN poste haste?

or are you, like me, watching your earning grow but can't have any?

 

Rodney




msg:1445721
 7:14 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

there were a couple of earlier threads about this here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

and here:
[webmasterworld.com...]

It seems they do arrive, it just takes a little while longer than folks would like.

peewhy




msg:1445722
 7:44 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

It seems they do arrive, it just takes a little while longer than folks would like.

'Would like' ... should read 'excpect' because they tell us to 'expect' it within a certain period.

mzanzig




msg:1445723
 11:37 am on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Same here - it's now over a month ago that they announced (by e-mail) that I would get it. From other posts, however, I learned that re-requesting it will make you just wait even longer... It's weird to see your revenue growing without being able to actually get to it. This is definitely something which they have to fix.

Just my $0.02

Roadkill




msg:1445724
 12:29 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

peewhy..... my experience is exactly the same as yours. Starting to wonder....

peewhy




msg:1445725
 1:05 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

You would think with all the sophisticated mechanisms that Google has in place, they'd have an alternative to snail mail.

Then the dark side of me wonders how much money is on hold in G's High Interest Instant Access Saver Account?

androidtech




msg:1445726
 1:27 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Can someone give me a link to a thread here that explains what the PIN is?

I've never heard of it and all of you have me spooked now. Is it part of EFT payment?

Thanks.

Ept103




msg:1445727
 1:45 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

The PIN is a "new safety feature" for new members. They are trying to verify mailing addresses by physical mail, it has nothing to do with EFT. Any member that joined after a certain date is required to do the PIN.. They tell everyone to expect it in 2 weeks and a lot of us have been waiting 3 weeks - 5 weeks and still haven't received it. There was even a guy that lived a few miles from Googleplex and he's been waiting weeks as well. They are apparently "really lagged" in sending the mails (they should at least tell us that they haven't sent them out yet, so we don't have to keep clicking "send a new PIN" and having the process start all over again.)

It's just a matter of courtesy... they are now neck deep because every publisher is asking them to send 2,3 maybe more PIN mails... which is causing everyone else a greater lag. They could just mail the publishers that have been delayed in sending their PIN and simply tell them there was a delay - expect it on day X, so they don't have to keep requesting new PINs and delaying the process.

:feels better: ...done venting... ;-)

peewhy




msg:1445728
 1:57 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Surely sending a cheque verifies a mailing address?

You cashed the cheque, the address must be right?

Ept103




msg:1445729
 3:23 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

peewhy, I agree.. and if they did insist on verifying the address for whatever reason they should at least send it faster than snail mail.

Tropical Island




msg:1445730
 4:08 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Ours took 4 weeks to arrive in a remote area of Venezuela.

jdvjdv




msg:1445731
 5:38 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Mine took about 5 weeks to arrive to Oxford, UK.

ncwonline




msg:1445732
 6:07 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

"peewhy
Surely sending a cheque verifies a mailing address?

You cashed the cheque, the address must be right? "

peewhy certainly you must be kidding right? They are attempting to make sure the "right" person cashes those check as in YOU not someone else.

Roadkill




msg:1445733
 7:21 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

HURRAY... it arrived.

After having it sent a second time.

peewhy




msg:1445734
 9:21 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

"peewhy
Surely sending a cheque verifies a mailing address?

You cashed the cheque, the address must be right? "

peewhy certainly you must be kidding right? They are attempting to make sure the "right" person cashes those check as in YOU not someone else.

Have you ever tried to open a UK bank account?

moltar




msg:1445735
 9:42 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

They are attempting to make sure the "right" person cashes those check as in YOU not someone else.

In Canada you cannot cash a check if it's not addressed to your name. I don't know about the rest of the world, but I imagine it should similar.

The real reason they are doing this is probably the addition of EFT. Since real address is not required anymore, one can enter any random address they want, and receive the funds via EFT.

spaceylacie




msg:1445736
 10:20 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

My bank lets me deposit other people's checks, as long as we both sign it, but my bank doesn't actually check that the other person really signed it. I can just bring in the other person's check, with 2 signatures on the back, one of which would be mine, and put it right in my account.

peewhy




msg:1445737
 10:36 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

My bank lets me deposit other people's checks, as long as we both sign it, but my bank doesn't actually check that the other person really signed it. I can just bring in the other person's check, with 2 signatures on the back, one of which would be mine, and put it right in my account.

Which country?

I'd like one of those accounts.

spaceylacie




msg:1445738
 10:40 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

In the US, Florida. They've even let me cash friend's checks for them, as long as I had money in my account to cover it if the check bounced. It's a business account, that probably makes a difference.

peewhy




msg:1445739
 11:02 pm on May 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

Okay, I'm not sure about any other country ...or planet but I would imagine that international banking regulations are very close.

I'm in the UK, it is very difficult to open a new account, even if you had a previous account with the same bank. Opening a business account is a slow process but at the end of it all, you have to prove who you are.

So, John Doe gives you a cheque to cash and signs the back, you counter sign it and the funds go into your account. Then, shock, horror ... John Doe's cheque is a bad one.

Who is responsible?

You!

So to get back on track, I can give Google any old name but it has to go into my real account. The one I have given proof relating to my identity.

So, just send a cheque and stop holding onto funds longer than need be ... are you listening Google?

roldar




msg:1445740
 2:10 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

After waiting about a month I finally received my PIN. I'm set up for EFT though, so no more waiting by the mail box.

I wonder if they'll even send the PIN if you don't request it be re-sent.

If you're really serious about the program, you'll click the "re-send" button. If you're not, you won't. Eliminate the chaff, and don't waste the postage if they don't care enough to wonder where it is.

If you are committing fraud, you're not likely to hit the re-send button. Because you know you won't get the PIN. And I wouldn't doubt that a few of those fraudsters probably start "guessing" a couple times, not even knowing how many digits/letters/who knows what the PIN really is. When people start putting random things in that PIN box, and they haven't requested a re-send, it's probably a sign that something mischevous may be afoot.

I think it's an excellent security feature for these reasons, on top of the fact that you have to either be at the address you claim, or have access to the mail at the address you claim. And if you're stealing mail, you've entered federal territory and will likely get a few more years when they finally catch you.

<added>
A couple other things:

They paid 37c to mail a tinly little postcard to me. Isn't it typically 23c to send one of those? Maybe they paid extra for some kind of secret delivery confirmation?

I wish it didn't say "Google Adsense" in the return address. I was expecting a nondescript white envelope.
</added>

peewhy




msg:1445741
 8:44 am on May 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

If you're really serious about the program, you'll click the "re-send" button. If you're not, you won't. Eliminate the chaff, and don't waste the postage if they don't care enough to wonder where it is.

That sounds very probable.

More of a 'serious enough' feature than a 'security' feature.

mzanzig




msg:1445742
 7:18 pm on May 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Yo, my PIN was in the mail today, even though I did not re-request it. In fact, I actually did nothing to receive it (except waiting four weeks). :-)

Mine was sent from Jamaica?! Which explains why it took so long to Germany. If they had sent it from the US, it would have taken about 5 working days. Very strange. The reason is not obvious for me (I have some ideas though).

Those not having received it - just wait, and watch for a very flimsy folded postcard. In fact it is not even very "secure": if the postman wanted to, he could read the PIN by peeking into the side of the folded postcard.

HTH,

-- Mark

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