| 3:41 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
My impressions and CTR are normal, but my earnings are way below average. I'd be happier if the clicks were also down, which means that it's just an updating issue. Now I have doubts that I'll even meet 75% of my normal daily average earnings.
| 6:01 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
The last 3 days combined (May 3, 4 and 5) have been record setting total income days for me. In fact, the day everyone complained about stats report delays (May 4th) was my best earnings day since I started with Adsense in the summer of 2003.
| 6:07 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
1 hour to go until midnight my time (Google time as well) and impressions are 1/2 of a "usual day" Hopefully this is a reporting error, needless to say I am being impatient, I just want to know when it will be accurate again :)
| 6:15 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Today I am seeing what appears to be an almost 50% drop in my EPC. It's probably one of the largest such drops in EPC I've had in any given day. |
It may be a coincidence that this has happened one day after the reporting delay yesterday, but I can't shake the feeling that it's correlated somehow... Or maybe I'm just being paranoid. I guess I'll know more over the next few days.
Took a big hit today, too. Yesterday ended up being fine, but eCPM (and thus total) is lower than I've seen in 6 months (and my sites have grown in traffic and content since then :\).
Updated... just checked a few of my sites and noticed ads are still only showing intermittently. Could explain my drop. I guess I will wait a couple days to see if this corrects itself before bugging Adsense.
| 7:08 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|I'm no major player in this biz however I have to say Kudos to Google for AdSense and their customer service. They have ALWAYS responded to my inquiries expeditiously and courteously. |
Actually, there is some basis for concern when it comes to Google's customer service:
|A new study of national advertisers and interviews with a handful of marketing agencies indicate that the Internet giant could have a customer service problem. |
"Google has always been bad -- worse than bad even," said Dana Todd, the president of the Search Engine Marketing Professional Organization (SEMPO), a 300-member trade group founded in 2002.
I seriously don't check my stats but 2 or 3 times a day, which is better then when I was addicted and doing it twice an hour before I went to AA.
I'd love to stay and chat but I need to go call my sponsor.
"Hello? Brad? I feel those cravings again..."
| 8:19 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Hmm it seemns that smart pricing is hitting us again?
My CPC is getting ridiculously lower in the last 2 days...
| 8:27 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
yeh something is definately up with todays figures.
i am seeing the same as what alot of people are witnessing.
same amount of page impressions, clicks, ctr ratio the same as the last few days but earnings have dropped about $30
hopefully they will credit us back if this is indeed a lingering affect and on there end.
| 8:33 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
"hopefully they will credit us back"
Thanks, I needed a laugh! :-)
| 8:36 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I have been lurking within the forums for some time now and appreciate the useful content available.
I have just checked my stats and comparing yesterday and the day before they seem very similar with page impressions varying by just 41. On a site with XXX impressions this would not be very strange but I am getting around 25k impressions and also the earnings varies between the 2 days by just 30c on a low $XXX amount.
Anyone else experience something similar? Not sure if its pure coincidence or to do with something like the stats delay.
| 8:37 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Just one word for Thursday's earnings AND PPC...
Lowest in 6 months! Ad$on@r here we come...
| 9:20 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|"hopefully they will credit us back" |
Thanks, I needed a laugh! :-)
Actually, that's what happened in February.
An across the board drop like this probably means that one of their datacenters which calculates the totals is down. It's happened before.
The fact that Google hasn't said anything yet about the problems these days indicates they had a snafu. They all clam up when things go bad, and then after it's fixed, they issue a statement - after the legal department's blesses every word and syllable.
Even so, with all the problems, smart pricing and lack of quality control I see more and more publishers moving away from the program and decreasing their dependence on it. Not a majority of publishers, but more then before. Adsense definetely doesn't have the stellar reputation it once had. It's just been too unstable.
When some guy quits his job for Adsense, these recent events can make him more then nervous.
| 9:32 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Even so, with all the problems, smart pricing and lack of quality control I see more and more publishers moving away from the program and decreasing their dependence on it. Not a majority of publishers, but more then before. Adsense definetely doesn't have the stellar reputation it once had. It's just been too unstable. |
I disagree with you. Adsense is only unstable for those publishers that do not understand it. Before Adsense these same publishers coouldn't have dreamt of a better program. Some of them understood it and succeeded with it others didn't, got frustrated and either started clicking on their own ads to generate the extra buck or just dump on it to relieve frustration.
| 9:42 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I know where everyone's missing income is... in my account! :)
I guess I'm the only one who hit a new all time high on Thursday?
Wed's stats look the same as everybody else... lowered impressions, with lower, but close to avg income.
Thurs morn @ around 8:00am, when everyone else was posting that they had no stats, my stats were simply amazing, with an EPC 10X higher than normal, and was already closing in on my daily avg income. Sometime after 8:00am, everything appeared to get back into place, but those few morning hours helped set what appears to be a record day (depending on future audits/corrections).
FWIW, fluctuations like Thurs simply do not happen here. I serve around 500k page & 1mil AdSense impressions per day on a site that is relatively stale/static (ie. my AdSense income is probably as stable as it gets).
| 9:48 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
As has been said before: Just sit back and relax for a day or two. Ignore yesterday's figures as a blip. Things will straighten out at some point and Google will - if necessary - do a backwards adjustment upwards. As they have done before.
| 11:09 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I recently put up adsense 2 weeks back have made over 700$
I am from India
my site is
Since wednesday there were some delays in the stats.
I wrote to google,they replied that it will become normal.
and Today Friday afternoon, stats seem to be updating properly.
[edited by: engine at 11:25 am (utc) on May 6, 2005]
[edit reason] See TOS [webmasterworld.com] [/edit]
| 11:30 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
... sit down and relax.
Today at this moment I have 10 clicks and 30 cents earnig. It is even worse than pathetic. I'll try to relax couple more days.
Do you know - adwords advertisers now have possibility to scratch out any site they don't want?
May be my site is too scrapper look? :)
Will see. But definetly need some time to be in some
quasy equilibrium state again.
[edited by: photo200 at 11:31 am (utc) on May 6, 2005]
| 11:31 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Visited your site and found: "Click on Advertisement Below to Win Rs. 5000" being placed just above an Adsense block. Maybe a way to make $700 in 2 weeks, but definetely a way to get kicked out of the program as soon as they check your pages.
[edited by: Petrocelli at 11:32 am (utc) on May 6, 2005]
| 11:31 am on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I can only say that there was hopefully a blip in yesterday's stats and they will adjust them later. Earnings/Impressions for the day were half of normal. The stats just don't seem right as the Page eCPM and CTR are at least %30 above normal and my stats are usually so steady they are boring.
| 12:49 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Yesterday (Thursday) was a very bad day. I pulled in about 35 percent less than the day before. They definitely pulled some switch... probably the one titled "lower commissions and increase Quarterly profit". Google has to make their numbers now.
| 1:04 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I hate to be "me too"
But Thurs looked off :(
| 1:06 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
20% drop in ads - 50% drop in revenue yesterday - but so far today looks a little better... the waiting game begins...
totally agree that it does bite how unstable the Google earnings are...
while as a small publisher it's great to have good earnings from AdSense - it very very unnerving running things / doing business this way...
not to mention a _just_ a tad stressful...
have a friend who's friend just died young - didn't smoke - didn't drink - died from stress...
i'm off to get a beer n have a puff... not about to quit adsense yet! - back when the Google Grenade smoke clears...
| 1:39 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I think this thread demonstrates a real need for some quality competition in the marketplace from Yahoo, MSN and an-other.
Adsense is a great source of revenue but once you get reliant on it it's a risky business, especially if peoples jobs depend on it.
If google does start to pass less on to the likes of us then we need to be able to choose somewhere else to go.
I feel like a small farmer selling milk and eggs to the supermarkets.
| 2:14 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Well, I must agree...the stats ARE still off from yesterday. For me the only true gauge is page impressions...50% of what actually happened and no PSA's to be found.
Yes, advertisers are opting out of publisher sites...should really be a good thing for us because if scrappers are gone revenue can increase and their can profit (which would make me bid more :). If the site is a scrapper, better jump to it quick and fix your sites the opting out will be the biggest hit now because it's new and I can imagine once you are out...you are out.
| 2:25 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I'm an adwords advertiser and I'm definitely using the new feature to block out sleazy looking sites that I don't want to see my ads on.
| 3:09 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Well yesterday is the single largest one time drop we have ever seen, 1% drop in ctr which is massive and a 40%ish drop in cpm/epc with all of our impressions reporting properly still.
Today is equally horrible, this is on a large network of pr6 - 7 websites across a large vertical swath, these sites have been established for years and have millions of visitors a month.
We really hope the stats are still behind for yesterday and that is following over to today but I am getting a gut feeling that this isnt the case. We will wait until tomorrow before we contact adsense but we are still in shock to see the program drop 40% overnight for us, this really is disheartning as we have "played by the rules" for the last 5 years.
We are not a small account and are well into the 5 figure a month range. We are just dazed and shocked at this point, what the heck has happened?
| 4:28 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
My stats for today have all moved up to the normal range.
Yesterday's still show a lower than normal click through and unsually low earnings for a Thursday.
| 4:41 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
drall - sorry to hear about this. I think we will all find out within the next few days if our sites are converting for advertisers. We know we have quality content and probably a great looking site, but they are concerned with the bottomline(as they should be) and if our great sites aren't cutting the mustard I would assume they will be cut.
| 5:27 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Significant increase in CTR and EPC--both up more then 50%. Too soon to tell if this is just a carryover from this week's instability. But I'm crossing my fingers and hoping it's a sign of things to come in the Negative Campaign era.
| 5:36 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
My stats have stopped updating now for about 5 hrs, must still be having problems with there reporting systems.
Thanks clearvision, I do not know if this has to do with the new blocking system or not that they implemented.
I know alot of advertisers converted really well on our properties as many thousands tried contacting us directly to bypass google because there conversions where so good on our properties.
We, like many publishers that are whitehat and produce high quality content assumed this would only help properties like ours with revenues as the scraper/junk sites would loose out and that would help boost revenues for good sites but in our case at least right now that doesnt seem to be happening.
Maybe this is only a temporary hiccup as the whole system readjusts but if it is not then this is really the beginning of the end for us with Google.
I am just glad we did not abandon our secondary network for advertising as they are now closely matching Google for revenue. 30 million page views a month may not be alot compared to some networks but to us it has taken many years to build up this type of traffic and to watch it be slashed 40% overnight is some heavy duty stuff.
As quoted in the movie airplane
"I guess I picked the wrong week to quit smoking"
| 6:05 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
So are we calling this one the "Wilbanks" effect?
| 6:43 pm on May 6, 2005 (gmt 0)|
More like another quote from Airplane - "Looks like I picked a wrong time to stop sniffing glue."
Actually - today is way up, very high CPM, whereas Tue. and Thur had historic low CPM's.
Worst of all, yesterday's #'s are missing 3,000 impressions... but if I turn on all my channels, and view it that way, I can see them... even though the lower revenue stays the same.
Never thought about how a drop like this could effect a network of 30 million impressions. Shouldn't you be a Premium Partner with that many a month?
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