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Please help!
Cannot apply Google Adsense :(
jonidontcry

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:02 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is the truth that I cannot apply Google Adsense and I would like to ask if someone knows the reason :(

Last time I had an Adsense account and use it on my website. I also told my friends about it and asked them if they can click on the Ads.

But the bad things were that they had clicked too too much :(
Then Google had terminated my account. They said:

<snip typical invalid clicks - account termination email>

It means I have to try again :(
I had registered again (using another email, the same website), but they didn't send me an approve email :(
Then I think I should make another website.
I registered again (another email, another website), but they still did not send me any email for apporing :(

I would like to ask if someone know why? Did they ban my IP address? or ban my personal information? or ban my website?

Thank you very much!

[edited by: Jenstar at 5:08 pm (utc) on Mar. 5, 2005]

 

tebrino

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:10 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

I also told my friends about it and asked them if they can click on the Ads.
You answered your question

spaceylacie

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:15 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

I would fess up to them and send a letter of apology. I would be honest and tell them exactly what happened. Then, I would request that my account be reactivated.

The Google adsense support team is, in my experience, very friendly and helpful.

diamondgrl

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:26 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Your problem is not that your friends clicked too much. The problem is you asked them to click.

You're a fraud. Get a life.

creepychris

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:31 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's nice to see Google's anti-fraud mechanism is working at least to some degree.

Zygoot

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:35 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Stop whining it's your own fault. If you hadn't asked your friends to click your ads you would still be in the program.

Try applying for some other contextual advertising programs or try affiliate marketing.

CheeseburgerBrown

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:45 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

Hey, jonidontcry -- just cut and paste the text below and mail it to Google!

Dear Google,

I am an AdSense Publisher well-respected in mouthy forum circles, and I am writing to you to express my concern over your response to jonidontcry's re-application to the AdSense programme.

While I recognize that jonidontcry's past blatant abuses of the programme's Terms of Service and repeated attempts to re-apply pseudoanonymously may have been flagged by your system as suspicious, I want to be the first one to assure you that jonidontcry's motives are not nefarious; rather, the behaviour was driven by honest inanity.

Though I have not met jonidontcry personally -- and in fact I'm not even sure of their sex, or first language -- I'd like to offer my FULL POWER AS AN ADSENSE PUBLISHER to vouche for jonidontcry officially.

Amen.

Chndru

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:50 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

[OT]
He asked for help not morals.

Don't flaunt your supposedly-superior-moralistic attitudes.

If your post aint gonna HELP the first-time poster, hush away. There are several threads that might use your expertise.

CheeseburgerBrown

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:54 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

There is no help anyone can offer him or her, which is sort of the point.

The only advice that an outside expert might be able to inject would amount to answering the question: how do I trick Google into taking me back?

Jonidontcry soiled their own white hat. It's not moralizing to point that out.

petra

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 4:04 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

He asked for help not morals.

Why would anyone want to give people like him/her any help? so that they can re-join and ruin the program for the rest of us making a living out of it?

You made your bed now lie (pun intended) in it.

[edited by: petra at 4:44 pm (utc) on Mar. 4, 2005]

kpaul

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 6:02 pm on Mar 4, 2005 (gmt 0)

it sounds to me like the person wants to know of a way to get around the no reregistering thing.

-kpaul

ownerrim

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 12:22 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

that someone like this CANNOT get back into the program should be celebrated. someone who tells his friends to click on his ads and then tries to connive his way back into adsense would probably have no qualms stealing my content or stealing your content, or clicking on your ads if he thought you were a competitor. give me a break. he should be buggy whipped and run out on a rail.

nutsandbolts

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 12:37 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Good job Google. As has been said, shows the anti-fraud measures are working okay so far.

ncw164x

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 1:02 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

>>Did they ban my IP address?
It could be banned or it raises a flag when you try to contact the adsense team

>>Or ban my personal information?
same as above

>>Or ban my website?
without a doubt your first website will be banned for life, each time you try to register another domain name with adsense you are trying to pull the wool over their eyes by using yet another email address and domain name, don't forget its not just your IP address and domain name its also your browser and operating system which you will not of changed will leave a pattern.

Its pointless posting here expecting sympathy because you just wont get any, you have done wrong and you are paying the price, try another text ads company because you ain't going to get another adsense account in your own name again, and if you managed to get one its only a matter of time before they cancel it again anyway

Bottom line is...get over it and move on

Livenomadic

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 1:15 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Chndru:

You want me to HELP an admitted CLICK THIEF rejoin adsense by TRICKING GOOGLE?!?!?!?

Wow... just wow...

jonidontcry

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 3:55 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Thanks for your replies!

But have you ever thought you were in the same situation like me?
If you do something wrong, don't you want to be forgiven and have a chance?

My mistake was that I just told them to click on the ads. I had thought that they just clicked on which they were interested in, or just something interesting. I had never told them to click too much like this. And it's my mistake that I hadn't told that.

I just wanna ask if someone would give me any help? Cause now I'm launching a new site and I really want to have Adsense on it.

Thank you very much :)

diamondgrl

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 4:14 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

jonidontcry,

Here's your problem. You want the judge to let you off with a warning. So maybe, just maybe, you have a right to hope if you lay out the facts for the judge, you show that you understand what you did was wrong, and then demonstrate clearly that you will not do it again because you have undergone a profound personal transformation.

But instead, you come before a jury of your peers - WebmasterWorld - and you not only show no remorse, you show no recognition what you did was wrong. You ask us whether we know why Google was banning you? Isn't it as clear as day? You stole from people. And then you have the temerity to blame your friends for clicking too much.

No, the problem lies squarely on your shoulders, chum, and any judge in his or her right mind would dress you down severely and show you no remorse in the sentencing.

[edited by: diamondgrl at 4:16 am (utc) on Mar. 5, 2005]

garyr_h

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 4:16 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

jonidontcry, the problem wasn't that they clicked too much. The problem was that you even told them to click the ads.

Personally, I tell my friends who visit my website to NOT click on the ads. I suggest you do the same.

You also might want to take a look at the TOS of any such advertising before you join it. Understandthe TOS and then follow it like the quaran... or bible.

Just think of it from the advertisers point of view. If you paid money to advertise your website would you want someone who didn't plan on buying something from you or was even interested in your website to click on your ad?

So again, I suggest you do not have your friends click on your ads. And do NOT tell your visitors to click on your ads either.. if they want to click on them, they will. They don't need you to tell them to.

As for getting back into the program I suggest the same as an earlier poster. Email the support team telling them EXACTLY what happened. Do not lie to them. Then MAYBE, just maybe they will let you back in. But if they EVER see an invalid click again on your website, you will be dropped like a can of worms.

If they don't let you back in. Just check out the other sections of WW and you will find another contextual advertising company you can join. Just don't look to be making the same amount of money.

Livenomadic

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 4:54 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

But have you ever thought you were in the same situation like me?

If I were ever a situation in which I STOLE MONEY from people because of my greed and was BANNED because of it, I would realize my mistake meant I lost the opportunity to be a part of the adsense program and move on.

There are thousands of webmasters working their butts off to make great and informative sites, I'm glad the adsense team is spending time on these people instead of some kid whose friends "clicked too too much".

jonidontcry

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 6:46 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

So you think if someone makes mistakes and never have a chance again?

Sanenet

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 8:56 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

Now now, lets not get too over excited. We were all young once!

The boy did wrong, and was banned. Now, getting back into Adsense will be v. difficult - either learn about the system and live life on the edge, never knowing whether or not youll be banned, or negotiate with Google to see if theyll let you back in (I wouldnt suggest that you admit to asking people to click, but maybe if you confessed that your friends thought that they were doing you a favour...).

At the end of the day, if your site is worthy of being in AS, then if you behave yourself youll probably be let back in. If it isnt, then you wont.

And if you are let back in, hopefully youll now be a valued member of AS, knowledable of the rules and eager to be a credit to the system.

Apologies for lack of apostrophes etc but am typing from a Chinese keyboard on win98 in Mandarin, it aint easy :)

frox

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 9:16 am on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

jonidontcry, I think that if you re-apply in the name of someone else in your family, you change proveder, you throw away your previous websites AND CONTENTS! (which are now damned) you have some hope.

I mean, if I were google I would focus on baning contents rather than people. Actually checking people's identity is quite hard, but checking for contents is their speciality.

And now I have a question for you: how many clicks did you get through your friend?

CheeseburgerBrown

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 12:11 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

"jonidontcry, I think that if you re-apply in the name of someone else in your family, you change proveder, you throw away your previous websites AND CONTENTS! (which are now damned) you have some hope."

Also:

-Sever all ties with your family and friends.
-Use acid to burn off your fingerprints.
-Complete plastic surgery overhaul.
-New documents: passport, drivers license, Air Miles card
-Change genders.

P.S. Listen, I get the jonidontcry has apparently made an "honest" mistake, on account of being very young or perhaps not the swiftest finch on the wing. Never the less, I much echo the sentiment of others here that the only way to get back in is no secret: build a good quality site, attract targeted traffic, and pray.

jonidontcry

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 12:20 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

It's about 400 clicks from my friends.
If I have a chance again, I will never make the same mistake like this.
Now I get all useful advice from you.
And I wanna have a chance to correct my mistake.
Just a chance...

Thanks you!

petra

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 12:21 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

As an adwords advertiser I'm really happy that Google has a firm grip on the program. Keep it up G!

PS. Cheesburger, thx for the laf!

Livenomadic

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 2:21 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

So you think if someone makes mistakes and never have a chance again?

It sounds like you feel the only mistake you made was getting caught.

If I accidently had an piece of merchandise in my pocket while walking out the store, then I should get a second chance.

If I STOLE a piece of merchandise, got caught, got banned from the store, the merchant has EVERY RIGHT to NEVER LET ME BACK IN AGAIN.

Google has already see your character. You had no problem stealing when you thought you were going to get away with it. Only when you got caught did you stop. That is not the type of person I want to spend my adword money on.

Jenstar

WebmasterWorld Senior Member jenstar us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 5:18 pm on Mar 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

You were suspended for breaking your contract with Google. Not too many businesses are willing to do a new contract with the same person when that person has already broken the contract once before in order to make a profit. It is just not smart business sense. If you found out someone was ripping you off (which is what you are doing when you ask people to click your ads to make money) you wouldn't ever want to do business with that person again.

Google also needs to keep their advertisers happy, since they are the ones who pay for the program. If you were readmitted to AdSense, I am sure they wouldn't be happy to know that an admitted fraudulent publisher managed to get a new account.

Bottom line: You will not be able to get a new AdSense account, so you should investigate other contextual advertising programs instead.

spaceylacie

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 6:39 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

Have you sent an apology letter yet, confessing exactly what you've done? Be as honest as possible, offer to write a testimonial for them(to warn others), offer to pay back everything you stole or even pay a penalization fee(for the extra work Google had to do to refund advertisers for the fraudulent clicks)... Google might appreciate your honest input and give you a second chance. I see this as your only option. I probably won't work, but it might.

bobothecat



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 7:12 pm on Mar 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

"My mistake was that I just told them to click on the ads."

Which meant you asked your friends to commit click-fraud for your financial gain ... doesn't matter if it's 1 click or 200.

Why on earth would Google want you back, especially when it seems that your whole intent was to cheat the system in the first place?

tntpower

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 5469 posted 6:51 am on Mar 7, 2005 (gmt 0)

They ban a lot, your IP, everything in credit card info (name, phone, address, post code, etc), IPs you used to login.

My 2 cents.

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