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AdSense launches the new payment control panel screen
Jenstar

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Msg#: 5362 posted 8:58 pm on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

Login to your account and click the payments tab.

What does everyone think?

You see two lines for each month:
One is for the day your payment is sent for the previous month's earnings, shown with a ($) around the figure.

The second is for the total earnings for that month, showing with the date of the last day of the month.

You can click on each for further details.

The thing that caught my eye the most is the "Payment Type: Check" when you click the payment details. Might just be a sign of future payment options to come ;)

 

newkid2005

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Msg#: 5362 posted 11:50 pm on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

I want my old panel back!

Now I have to copy and paste everything into excell. Not to mention all the clicking around.

I understand their secrecy about earnings cut etc. BUT, making it difficult for me to have a general overview about my earnings?

This sucks!

ve3cnu

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Msg#: 5362 posted 11:55 pm on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is supposed to be an improvement? I think the whole control panel interface is pretty embarrassing for Google and I'm not really sure why they are so bad at some interfaces. Sometimes you WANT a rich interface.

2oddSox

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Msg#: 5362 posted 11:56 pm on Feb 23, 2005 (gmt 0)

What does everyone think?

Initially, thumbs down. But like most things, I suppose in a month I'll be used to it and wonder why it was ever done the old way. But for now, definitely a thumbs down.

howiejs

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Msg#: 5362 posted 12:07 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I am confused . . .

My payment was marked approved earlier in the old screen

in the new screen I just don't see it?

paybacksa

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Msg#: 5362 posted 12:07 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

A step backwards in user interface for sure. Can no longer see the data without clicking, and each click gets you one record. I think they use that as a BAD example in CIS 101.

I used to glance at the screen and see all I needed to see for the current quarter. Now I glance at the screen and get annoyed, and have to decide where to click, and then after clicking return from click with no placeholder, etc etc. A huge step backwards IMO.

Very odd "improvement" indeed.

moltar

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Msg#: 5362 posted 12:25 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Looks awesome. Some <tr> coloring would help. It'd be great if they earnings for the current month.

If they showed the total of un-paid money I'd be very pleased.

For some people (like me) earnings spread over several months before accumulating a $100. I always have to manually calculate for the past 2-3 month.

incrediBILL

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Msg#: 5362 posted 1:22 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I guess don't really care about this change as long as a PAYMENT line shows up for January and a CHECK shows up in my mailbox, the rest of it is purely academic and *YAWN* not worth 2 pages of reading.

Took a second to adjust - the checkregister format is actually kinda nice, just dont see the need to click to see the check number and date, that's a bit of overkill.

Chico_Loco

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Msg#: 5362 posted 8:01 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Don't like it - I have to make an additional click to get the extended information which was previously available directly on the page.

I had to look at it for a few minutes to try and figure it out, I actually thought there has been some kind of a server error because having the links in the middle of the screen just doesn't feel right.

Also, I can't see the summed total for the specified months... I'd have to sum them manually?

I'd LOVE to from Jakob Neilson on this one!

Chico_Loco

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Msg#: 5362 posted 8:13 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

My payment was marked approved earlier in the old screen

in the new screen I just don't see it?

I think we can deduce that you won't be able to see it until a check number is available such that they can generate that new payment page. So we might not see anymore "Payment Approved" notices - boooo!

Now I have to copy and paste everything into excell

I haven't tried it, but perhaps their .csv (or .cvs?) file thing will be of use instead?

lammert

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Msg#: 5362 posted 11:32 am on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

but perhaps their .csv (or .cvs?) file thing will be of use instead?

I tried it, but Google is now WYSIWYG. You get the same information as on the screen, only in CSV format. There is no easy way to see all the figures for more than one month simultaneously.

darkmage

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Msg#: 5362 posted 12:41 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Unfortunately I suspect the payment type may also be 'held' and not Paypal, bank transfer etc. For anyone earning under $100, what do you see for payment type?

dillonstars

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Msg#: 5362 posted 1:16 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'd like earnings per channel data included in the drill down screens....

ronin

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Msg#: 5362 posted 2:52 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I'm not a fan of having the Earnings and Payments listed in the same column. Nor of having two separate rows for each month - I'd prefer to see a single row for each month... one cell showing when the earnings for a given month were confirmed and one cell, further to the right, showing when those earnings were paid.

As some others have mentioned, I don't like having to click backwards and forwards to access information which was formerly available at-a-glance.

Since a lot of people who use adsense are web designers who know something about web usability (and in some cases even bookeeping) why doesn't AdSense ask publishers for suggestions of how they would like their stats displayed?

UnnamedPlayer

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Msg#: 5362 posted 3:07 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I like it, but different background colors for earnings and payments as someone suggested would be better.

clearvision

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Msg#: 5362 posted 4:35 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I would like to see an even higher number in the payments column :)

How many times a month do people look at that page. The page only gets updated twice.

In truth, don't you just grab the total and stick it in a spread sheet then refer to your spread sheet for analysis?

dazzlindonna

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Msg#: 5362 posted 5:20 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google has never been good at design. They should hire someone who is an expert at both design and user interface. They are still so 1999 in this respect.

europeforvisitors



 
Msg#: 5362 posted 5:39 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google has never been good at design. They should hire someone who is an expert at both design and user interface. They are still so 1999 in this respect.

That's probably a major reason for their success. They've got a simple, clean search page and simple, clean results. It's the "KI$$" approach.

Seige

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Msg#: 5362 posted 8:14 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

I wish they would implement PayPal payment soon. I'm from the UK and do not like paying currency convertion rates. And yeah, I receive $100 over a few months.

dazzlindonna

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Msg#: 5362 posted 11:54 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

'Simple and clean' is good design and good user interface in some circumstances, I agree. In other circumstances, it is annoying and difficult to use. When a designer uses 'simple and clean' simply because he or she is not talented enough to make the interface more usable, then it becomes a hindrance. I've always thought the adsense administrative pages were simply thrown together by beginner HTML'ers, rather than by a designer who understands how to make an interface easy to use. I still think so.

nosense

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Msg#: 5362 posted 11:58 pm on Feb 24, 2005 (gmt 0)

Old was better.

indodpendo

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Msg#: 5362 posted 12:10 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

im not geting 2 for each month im getting
1 for each month

Dec 31, 2004 Earnings...
Jan 31, 2005 Earnings...
Feb 22, 2005 Payment...

on feb it adds all the others up
and in jan it has over 100 and i havent gotten my check yet for jan

Reflection

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Msg#: 5362 posted 12:17 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Two words: It Sucks.

I wonder what they will "upgrade" next.

garyr_h

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Msg#: 5362 posted 12:39 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

and in jan it has over 100 and i havent gotten my check yet for jan

No one has... They should be sending them out soon though.

bd4rr

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Msg#: 5362 posted 2:36 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I really do NOT like the change. The old version is perferred. It gives you a quick glance of how you are doing in the past couple of months.

miracle

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Msg#: 5362 posted 3:27 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I rather go back to the old panel. Google screwed up here.

Coldrum

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Msg#: 5362 posted 3:28 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I have already spoken to Google concerning this.

They have told me that they want to roll out a direct deposit system in the next few months.

hunderdown

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Msg#: 5362 posted 4:14 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

coldrum, that is great news to get that confirmed! If they need to screw up the interface to put Direct Deposit in place, then let them, I say.

amznVibe

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Msg#: 5362 posted 4:23 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

This is what they are wasting their time on?
There are endless things broken and need improvements within adsense and THIS is what they are tinkering with?

I liked the old screen better, alot better. Easier to read and historical of all payment events. Now you have to go digging with several mouse clicks.

I also notice you can't compare check issue dates very easily with this system which is probably the main reason why they did it - so people stop complaining.

At least put in alternate line colors so your eyes can focus on all that data.
They aren't even trying...

Chico_Loco

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Msg#: 5362 posted 4:37 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google has never been good at design. They should hire someone who is an expert at both design and user interface. They are still so 1999 in this respect.

If I am no mistaken Jakob Neilson is working with them in some way, and I'm sure if he is that something like this run get run by him. That's why I mentioned above that I like to hear from him.

I agree that their interfaces are absolutely rediculous. For a major internet advertising company, both AdSense and AdWords have an appauling interface. If they didn't have the traffic, nobody would use these. Yes, they are "simple" and that is a good thing, but there are several big, long-term issues which are still outstanding and should be addressed.

Can anyone confirm or deny the Jakob neilson thing?

lammert

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Msg#: 5362 posted 6:17 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

Google has never been good at design. They should hire someone who is an expert at both design and user interface. They are still so 1999 in this respect.

IMO Google is very good at design. Others put options in the user interface that they think you need. Google leaves out everything they think you won't need. Many newspapers didn't change their layout much the last century.

But despite of Google's different approach the functionality is the same. You can still see how much you earned, on which channel and on which day. You can see when your payment was approved, the check number and date.

And most important: The day of approval is very close to the day they send the check. So what you see is what you get with Google. I don't like affiliate programs where you have much more detail in the reports but have to wait sometimes three months before they pay you. What is the plus of a better payment report if you can't spend the money?

Freedom

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Msg#: 5362 posted 9:25 am on Feb 25, 2005 (gmt 0)

I think many people here are complaining too strongly about something that is not that significant. No disrespect.

My perspective is I am so thankful for AS, that these design changes are inconsequential to me.

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