| 11:50 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)|
That link doesn't work for me.
| 11:53 pm on Feb 2, 2005 (gmt 0)|
fixed link, sorry.
Heh, they allow self referals.
| 12:42 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
where do you find this link on the google website?
| 12:50 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I don't know if the do link to it from the google website.
| 1:01 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I can see widespread abuse of this on the horizon....
| 1:05 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I got a little worried when I saw they were asking for checking account information (when the terms say they pay by regular check).
Thought it might be some new, weird phishing scam.
I found a story about it on ZDNet though:
|After reporting record advertising sales, Google is pushing to recruit more marketers to the fold with the help of its Internet friends. The search engine recently introduced an affiliate program that pays $20 to any Web site for referring a new advertiser or publishing partner. Google is likely the last search engine to introduce such a program. Rival Overture Services runs an affiliate program, which was popularized by e-commerce giants Amazon.com and eBay.com. |
| 1:09 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I started to post a reply, but then it said it was not going to go over a secured line. The copyright notice at the bottom and not set up to send over SSL (checking account info)? Very strange for google.
| 1:30 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
While we'd very much like to expand the AdSense/AdWords referral program to make it available to anyone who's interested, currently this is by invitation only. However, if you'd like to be considered, you can fill out the application available at [google.com...] If we decide to expand, we'll invite those who submitted an application.
| 3:55 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I didn't get invited. I must be pond scum.
| 4:16 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
$20 is peanuts for referring someone who could spend thousands.
| 4:26 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Yeah, but the "How To make Millions On The Internet Without Working" Crowd should love it!
| 4:35 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Hmm...interesting that they are being driven to seek more outlets for their supply of advertisers, despite all the problems with click fraud. Anyone know what percentage of their revenue comes from Adsense vs. Adwords?
| 6:20 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Hmm...interesting that they are being driven to seek more outlets for their supply of advertisers |
Interesting phrasing there, "they are being driven to seek more outlets..."
The referral program seems to be to get more publishers *and* more advertisers.
Sounds like a business trying to grow. Amazon did it, eBay did it, Overture does it...doesn't sound like anybody is driving them to it.
| 9:39 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
What makes something a "US website"? It's not in the T&C - is it?.
I have a .com at a web host whose owners seem to be in Bulgaria but the content is targeted at USAns and the IP block resolves to Los Angeles. I live in Australia. Is mine a US site?
AdSense can deal with foreign publishers, so why won't this new referral program? And why not link it to AdSense (for "US sites" for now) so we don't need to supply payment details twice and get two cheques?
| 9:57 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Bearing in mind that you can be kicked out of adsense becuase you have a "related account" to someone whose account has invalid clicks on it. Why would ANYONE introduce someone who could ultimatley have them kicked out especially for $20!
| 11:09 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Blairsp, where would I find information on this?
| 11:14 am on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|Bearing in mind that you can be kicked out of adsense becuase you have a "related account" |
Unless of course they don't define an affiliate referral as a "related account". Why would they?
| 4:11 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Its seems to me that we are already sending them plenty of potential new accounts with the "Ads by Goooooogle" links; both Adwords accounts for those trying to figure out how to place an ad, and Adsense accounts for those wanting to show similar ads. Do you think that they will link their referral program in with this text? I've been kicking myself for the past year or so now, knowing that I am sending them new accounts and not getting paid for it...although $20 seems pretty meager...5% of future revenues from referrals seems more reasonable to me.
| 9:02 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
First rule of AdSense is don't talk about AdSense. At least it used to be.
I can see quite some difficulties for an AdSense site trying to tell visitors how great AdSense is without mentioning any details...
| 9:05 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|$20 is peanuts for referring someone who could spend thousands. |
Exactly. Like I said in the other thread about this, how about a revenue-sharing program like in other affiliate networks where if you refer someone and they make a buck, you make a % of that buck forever. Then, instead of being afraid of your friends' websites siphoning off your clicks, you would be more inclined to refer someone to adsense because then you would get paid if they make money using Adsense...
| 9:07 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|doesn't sound like anybody is driving them to it. |
I guess you've never heard of shareholders. They're constanly asking, "What are you doing to increase the value of my stock?" Execs have to do something to answer that question (whereas before, they answered only to themselves).
| 9:14 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
In my niche few important vendors use Adsense. I'd love to be able to have an "Advertise Here" Adsense ad just above or below my Adsense blocks.
Adsense makes great sense for my market. The vendors need to realize just how easy it is for them to advertise on many of the sites in the field without having to deal with each site individually.
Sure the $20.00 is not much, but add it up, along with bringing more adwords competition to the table, which may well increase a publishers gross, and it could be a winner for at least some publishers.
| 9:15 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
|I guess you've never heard of shareholders. |
Sure I have, but I don't see any evidence of shareholders "driving" Google to do this.
The program has been around for a while, just invite only.
Almost all major dot coms have some type of affiliate/referral program, so it seems like a natural business decision (to me), not necessarily the result of shareholders or anybody "driving" them to create new advertising areas.
The referral program is also looking for advertisers, so it doesn't seem to fit the original post of someone driving google to find more advertising space.
| 10:29 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I agree with ken_b
Being able to put advertise here, with a Google button, and me earning $20 is a win/win situation.
I get the adverisers with no hassle for my Adsense ads and also get $20. :)
| 11:02 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
For $20 you're better off selling your own ad space directly, assuming you have the traffic and site credibility to justify someone buying an ad on your site. With $20/month instead of a one-time referral you get $240/year for each advertiser.
I won't go into the exact numbers, but I have over 50 ad blocks on my site in high traffic areas, up to 5 ads per block, up to $50/month per advertiser.
Why on earth would I want to refer them to Google?
AdSense is just icing on the cake, but I wouldn't want to give my cake away for a paltry $20.
| 11:34 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
incrediBILL I was not describing an instance where I wanted to sell the advertising space directely.
If I was running Adsense on a site, having the button to say advertise here, would to me be a win/win situation.
I have seen europeforvistors use this, so now he can earn money from it. Different situations call for different approaches. None of us are wrong. :)
| 11:43 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
Has anyone signed up? I didnt find on europeforvistor's site. Any feedback?
| 11:46 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I haven't looked at EFVs site, but so far this program is an "invitation" only deal. Googles gotta invite publishers.
But nothing would stop publishers from making their own "Advertise Here" Buttons and send the prospect to Adwords.
| 11:47 pm on Feb 3, 2005 (gmt 0)|
I didn't mean europeforvistors was actually using the affilate program, when you went to his site it said to advertise here use Google Adwords.
Now he could monetise this.
Sorry for any confusion.
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